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Family History Beginners Board / Irish Christian name TURET, does it exist?
« on: Tuesday 22 June 21 10:39 BST (UK)  »
Opinions, suggestions please.
1851 census, Seaham Harbour.
Irish community.

An enumerator has written the Christian names of two Irish dock labourer's wives (different families, in nearby houses) as:


However I can't find Turet as a Christian name in Ireland, or in the BMD register on Ancestry.

So I'm wondering what this enumerator heard twice (in a heavy Irish accent), which he wrote down as Turet?

What's your guess? What should it be? Or is it an existing (but very rare) name?

Thank you, Dulciebun

Regarding UK Census 1861.

If a person [crew, or passenger,] was on a boat in a UK harbour for Census night, will they appear on the UK census and, if so, where?

Also, if in 1861 they were staying at a small UK Harbour which had cabins in the harbour area for passengers [they got off the boat, to avoid fire risk, but didn't go to lodgings in the town], where would they be recorded on a Census?

While I'm here;  I'm searching for the births of a Mariner's 2 daughters (circa 1864 + 1866) but not finding them anywhere at all. The daughters (who had later emigrated to the USA) believed they were born in Sunderland, Co. Durham, but there are no convincing birth records for them in Sunderland or County Durham or anywhere on UK land that I can see. Your thoughts, please.

Thank you. 

Please help me find any trace of Bridget MURPHY born around 1840.
Father: Matthew MURPHY "Labourer at a corn mill"

Bridget Murphy married Henry MCATAMINEY in 1862 in Sunderland, St Mary's Catholic Chapel.
I have obtained the marriage certificate.

In 1862 Bridget Murphy is apparently 22, a spinster. Residence at time of marriage: Seaham Harbour.
In 1862 Henry McAtaminey, 28, is a Mariner (bachelor), residence Mill Street Sunderland, and his father is given as James McAtaminey (deceased), agricultural labourer.

Henry McAtaminey wrote his own name very beautifully. His surname is spelled 'McTaminey' on the certificate but has been officially corrected to McAtaminey, which matches what he wrote.
I can't find any convincing trace of this Henry apart from his presence on the 1862 marriage certificate.

Looking at the originals (not the indexes) I have carefully looked through the entire 1851 and 1861 censuses (Seaham, Dawdon) for a Bridget Murphy, and I can only see a Bridget Murphy aged 18 at Seaton Collery with her mother Elizabeth (widow) and brother Michael Murphy (coal miner), a family from County Meath. On the 1862 certificate the groom's father is marked as deceased but the bride's father is not marked deceased, so if these coal-mining Murphys were our Bridget's family, her mother Elizabeth Murphy would not have been a widow in 1862. Also this Bridget would be 3 years too young, however I've sometimes seen girls increase their age on a certificate when marrying an older man.

Helpful names: witnesses to the 1862 marriage are a Bridget Lawless and a John Reilley. 

So, please help: where is Bridget Murphy's family - at any point?
Who was her father Matthew Murphy, labourer at a corn mill?
What happened to the married couple Henry & Bridget McAtaminey after 1862?

I'm stuck!

Thank you, Dulciebun

Please help with a Marriage record 1862 (24 Feb I think).
Sunderland, Co. Durham.
St Mary's Roman Catholic Church Parish register. Church is at 27 Bridge Street Sunderland.

Can anyone see the original of this record please?
All I have is a typed index and I think it's been mistranscribed, it makes no sense.

Parties are Henry McAtaminey + Bridget Murphy.
I'm questioning the "James I. Derry" given as the groom's father, this can't be right...?

Thank you, Dulciebun

Family History Beginners Board / David TIMINEY, where did he go after 1851?
« on: Monday 03 May 21 15:29 BST (UK)  »
Please help me track DAVID TIMINEY (Timoney, Timney perhaps) who tantalisingly pops up just once, on the 1851 census, then seems invisible.

Can you locate him, backwards or forwards? Has his surname got mangled in the indexes?

1851 census
David Timiney is a lodger along with JOHN TIMINEY (David's younger brother? or cousin?).
Both born Ireland. I think David's age is 28; what can you see?

The host family is McInany (later sp. McAneny) in Old Monkland, Lanark, and their lodgers David & John are (I believe) coal miners at this point.

[1861 census: The McAnenys shift to Bothwell, but the Timineys are not with them again.]

What happened to David?

Thank you, Dulciebun

World War Two / WW2 uniform, please tell me what this lady did?
« on: Sunday 25 April 21 13:00 BST (UK)  »
Please see photo.
Lady furthest left, standing at the back, in uniform - cap + skirt.

Can you identify the uniform? Or tell me what war job she might have done?

The wedding is 1943 Birmingham. We don't know who she is... yet!

Thank you, Dulciebun

Ireland / Baptism 1837 TIMONEY Leitrim & Sligo, need an image of the page
« on: Saturday 24 April 21 16:24 BST (UK)  »
www.Ancestry is giving me this info:

     John Timoney
     Baptised 21 June 1837 Leitrim and Sligo
     Father: James

which is apparently taken from Kilmore/Kinlough records 1835 - 1860.

PROBLEM: the accompanying scan of the page is so faint & illegible that I can't verify the record.

Request: Do you have an image (from a different family history site, for instance) which can be read? I'm looking for the mother's name also.

Many thanks, Dulciebun

Warwickshire / Summer Street Birmingham, where was it?
« on: Wednesday 21 April 21 19:19 BST (UK)  »
Please show me where SUMMER STREET was, in central Birmingham (St Philips parish I think)?

Not Summer Lane, not New Summer Street - I'm after the 'Summer Street' which appears on the 1871 census.

And there was definitely a pub at 1 or 2 Summer Street B'ham, what was it called?
Are there any old photos of this Street?

Many thanks, Dulciebun

Family History Beginners Board / Manchester TRAMS 1880s - 1900, what were the routes
« on: Thursday 08 April 21 11:59 BST (UK)  »
Seeking details of Manchester's TRAM SYSTEM in the late 19th century.

In particular - if you got off a train at Manchester Piccadilly Train Station in about 1890, and then got a tram in the Stretford direction, which areas of Manchester would it take you through?

Presumably the 19th century trams went along roads, and were not the train-like things which are there now?

Thank you, Dulciebun

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