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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Help with deciphering birthplace
« on: Wednesday 08 June 22 22:03 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone please help decipher this birthplace from the 1871 England Census for my 4x Great-Grandmother. In later records, she gives her birthplace as Warwickshire. It has been transcribed as Wiltshire.

I think the second word is Tulburstow - after Googling, Tilburstow in Surrey comes up as the closest in spelling, but it's nowhere near Wiltshire or Warwickshire!

I know the quality isn't great but it wouldn't let me upload a high resolution image.

Her name was Mary Ann Jeffery and she was born in approx. 1849. In the 1871 England Census she is listed under her married name, Mary Ann Heath at 49 John Street in Deptford.

Thank you in advance :)


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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Marriage of John White and Rosanna Graham
« on: Wednesday 09 February 22 00:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I'm trying to find the marriage of John White and Rosanna Graham in Nottingham in 1831. Would anyone please be able to look this up for me? I have all of their children and baptism records etc. but I'm just missing a marriage record.

Thank you in advance for any help. :)


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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Baptism Records of the Burtons
« on: Monday 17 January 22 13:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everyone,

I'm currently trying to find the baptism records of the children of James Burton (1858-1897) and Eliza Ann Hyson (1859-1936).

They were all either born in Radford or Lenton, but I'm unsure if this was where they were baptised.

• Tom (b. 1878 in Radford)
• Albert (b. 1879 in Radford)
• Nellie (b. 1880 in Radford)
• Emma (b. 1883 in Radford)
• James (b. 1886 in Lenton)
• John (b. 1887 in Lenton)
• Will (b. 1889 in Lenton)
• Harold (b. 1891 in Nottingham - possibly privately baptised as he died shortly after)
• Charles or Charlie (b. 1892 in New Lenton)
• George (b. 1894 in New Lenton)

I would be so grateful if anyone is able to look one or two of these up for me. I've got lots of records and documents for this family but I've been unable to source any baptism records whatsoever. I'm hopeful they may include a birth date, although I know from experience that this is not always the case. I'm particularly interested in Will, George and James, as these are potential birth fathers of my Great-Grandmother (currently researching via DNA).

Thank you so much for any help that you can offer! :)

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Hi,

I was hoping someone could please help with dating this photograph? It was in an album with my Great-Grandparents photographs but sadly nobody knows who it is, just that they're related to one of my grandparents. I've got photographs of my Great-Great Grandparents, born around 1900 and it isn't them.

Thank you!

Edit: Thought I would add names in case any distant relatives stumble across this post! This could perhaps be a photograph of a 3x Great-Grandparent, in which case, the surname of the couple could be Halford or Johnson (Leicestershire), Hunt, Baxter, Smith, Ross, Lewis or Mander (Staffordshire).

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Is he my Great-Grandfather?
« on: Thursday 21 January 21 23:05 GMT (UK)  »
So I posted recently because I did an Ancestry DNA test which came up with a lot of matches with the same surname. Due to the privacy of the other family, I'll say their name was Smith. Through working with numerous 2nd and 3rd cousin matches, I was able to find a common ancestor, someone who would be my 2x Great-Grandfather. It transpires that this man's son was my Nana's Mum's best friend, let's call him John Smith.

Nana did an Ancestry test and her results have come back. Her top 5 matches, not including me, are from the Smith family. The other top matches we don't know, but my Nana's Mum was illegitimate. Anyway, we initially thought, right this proves it, her Dad was John Smith. However, I did some digging and Nana has 5th-8th cousin matches that show up as sharing a common ancestor on her Dad's (who she knew growing up) side of the family.

I know this is Ancestry trying to form a relation. However, it's now got me thinking. I'm now wondering if there is perhaps a chance that 2x Great-Grandfather Smith is the father of my Nana's Mum, actually making him my Great-Grandfather.

I looked at my top 2 cousin matches on MyHeritage (waiting on Nana's upload results). Person A is 191.5cM and 8 shared segments, and is the grandson of 2x Great-Grandfather Smith. Person B is 143.7cM and 4 shared segments, and is the granddaughter of John Smith. I would have thought that I would have a higher cM to the granddaughter of John Smith? Or is it just because I share more DNA with one than the other?

On Ancestry, Nana has 404cM across 21 segments and 302cM across 11 segments with the grandchildren of 3x Great-Grandfather Smith, who would obviously be her Great-Grandfather if John Smith is her Dad.

Could anyone please offer any help with this? I'm sorry if it doesn't make sense, I struggled with finding an easy way of explaining this. Thank you in advance! :)

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Illegitimacy and DNA Matches
« on: Sunday 17 January 21 22:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everyone,

I recently took an Ancestry DNA test and well... it's been interesting to say the least! I have also uploaded to MyHeritage and Living DNA. I have so many DNA matches that I cannot link to any of my trees. I've gone through and grouped them all and built trees for them but I'm getting nowhere. There is a lot of illegitimacy, and I'm hoping I can find out my 2nd Great-Grandfather on my Dad's maternal line, as well as my Great-Grandfather on my Dad's paternal line.

We are currently waiting on a DNA test for my Nana (Dad's Mum). She never questioned if her Dad was in fact her Dad. However, through working with my 1st-2nd and 3rd-4th cousins matches, I've found that my Great-Grandad was my Nana's Mum's best friend. I have no DNA matches to the family of her Dad (well, who we thought was her Dad). No one else will take DNA test because they think it's too expensive.

Another thing that has got me stumped is that I have no matches to my Great-Grandad's family, the Halford's. I've researched the family tree for years and have living relatives in my tree but despite this I have no matches.

I have a 2nd-3rd cousin match with 153cM - I'm wondering if this person is more likely to be related to a Great-Grandparent or Great-Great Grandparent?

If anyone has any tips or advice, I'd be so grateful.

Thank you! :)

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The Common Room / Chronic Dementia at 35?!
« on: Sunday 08 November 20 22:38 GMT (UK)  »
I've found the death certificate of a relative in my tree. Her cause of death is given as "chronic dementia - 2 years". However, she was only 35 years old (the record also states this). I know the term "dementia" used to cover a lot of mental illnesses such as schizophrenia, but this couldn't be the cause of death? I'm just confused how a doctor could certify that this caused the death of a 35 year old lady... I don't suppose anyone could please shed some light on this for me?

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The Common Room / Lost Family in Scotland or Ireland...
« on: Sunday 08 November 20 14:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

I'm really struggling with locating a family in either the Antrim area of Ireland or potentially Edinburgh in Scotland.

James O'Neill was born in 1868 in Derrymore, Antrim, Ireland and Elizabeth Lavery was born in 1875 in Aghagallon, Antrim, Ireland. They had 9 children between 1896 and 1918 in Aghagallon that I'm aware of through a mixture of records and family information: Joseph, Henry, Annie, Mary, John, Kevin, James, Gavin and Patrick.

I've been able to find marriages for John and Mary in Edinburgh, Scotland. John married Helen Carrigan in Edinburgh in 1930, and they then moved back to Aghagallon. I have been able to follow this line of the family to the present day in Aghagallon and England.

Mary married James McGrail in 1926, also in Edinburgh - I haven't been able to find any further records for her, her parents or her siblings.

Cleary John and Mary moved to Scotland, and I'm wondering if perhaps the whole family did too?

Thank you in advance for any help or advice.  :)

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Antrim / So many Lancelots - which one?
« on: Saturday 07 November 20 11:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

I'm wondering if someone could please help me with finding the parents of Mary Anne Turtle. She was born in 1835 in Aghalee, married Henry O'Neill on 17 Feb 1868 in Aghagallon, and died 12 May 1905 in Montiaghs.

Her father is recorded as Lance Turtle, a Farmer, on their marriage certificate from 1886 and is not stated to be deceased. I've found a matching baptism record in Aghalee in 1835 which give the parents as Lancelot Turtle and Sally Allen. Mary Ann is stated to be 29 (edit: on the marriage certificate) so this is 4 years off but I know this happens a lot.

There seem to be quite a few Lancelot Turtles in Antrim around this time. I've tried to research them all and listed what I have found to make it easier.

  • Mr Lancelot Turtle of Aghagallon (possibly b. 1767- d. 1828) - had a child with Jane Allen (possibly b. 1779 - d.1849) - Catherine Arabella Turtle in 1813 (Aghalee).
  • Lancelot Turtle Esq of Aghagallon (b abt. 1815 and d. 27 May 1860 - Father was another Lancelot) - married Anne Buillick (d. 1855) in 1853 - had a daughter, Charlotte Sophia Turtle in 1854 (Aghalee) - a Newspaper Record states Charlotte was their only child and died at the residence of her cousin John Buillick in 1865.
  • Lancelot Turtle JP of Aghalee, d. 1888, cannot find a birth record but there is a Lancelot born in 1834 in Aghalee in 1851 Irish Census.
  • Lancelot Turtle, died on 15 Sep 1860 in Derryneasser and is recorded as being a Farmer - John Turtle is an executor. - I think based on his occupation this is most likely him, but I cannot find any further record and Lancelot "appears" to be alive at the wedding in 1886.

I haven't been able to find anything for a Sally Allen or Turtle :(

Thank you for any help or advice in advance! :)

(Sorry for all the information overload - I just thought it would be easier to share all I have found to save people time)

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