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The Common Room / - missing record(s)
« on: Saturday 18 July 20 15:20 BST (UK)  »
I'm trying to find the 1841 Census record on for Jane Hasted, 45, of Portsea Island, who was living at Wellington Place - information from

There are others in the same household: William Hasted (14); Eliza Hasted (8 years); Mary Clifford (30); William Clifford (3); and Eliza Mason (13).  Of course, this is per the transcription on familysearch.

They are also all found on a search of Wellington Place, Portsea Island, on  No funny spellings or different dates to familysearch.  I would be able to see the sheet, if I subscribed to findmypast, but I don't - I subscribe to ancestry!

However, ancestry finds none of them.  I phoned the ancestry helpline and he couldn't find them either.  The explanation offered was that a descendant might have asked for that record to be removed - but that couldn't be confirmed.  Seems a bit over the top?  From 1841?

I was directed to National Archives (not sure what they would do) - ancestry didn't seem to want to investigate.

It this actually a thing that people have encountered before?

The Common Room / Albert George Rea on
« on: Friday 12 June 20 15:37 BST (UK)  »

I have been looking at some trees on ancestry that contain my great-grandfather, Albert George Rea.  I wondered why several of them show his birth as 29 April 1880, when his actual date of birth was 13 January 1881 - I know a lot of trees are just copied and not researched, but who started this?

Then I realised that he was Christened on 29 April 1881, so this date has been taken to be his birthdate, but mistyped as 1880.  However, looking at ancestry, their summary page does show 1880 - a mistake I have now flagged to ancestry.

Also, of the nine trees that I can see, the majority have his death as 1939, when in fact he died on 12 October 1959.  They also show his death in Alverstoke, Gosport, Hampshire (Little Green).  This is completely impossible - I live about 15 minutes walk from Little Green, Alverstoke, and it wasn't built until the 1960s.  Anyway, I know he died in Sussex.  There is a family connection to Little Green, but one that can't possibly be online anywhere at all - I challenge anyone to find it!

Just out of a sense of curiosity, I'm intrigued to know where this idea comes from - I have tried contacting one of the tree owners, who I think is related, but no response.

I thought I'd post this as a funny story about not believing anything you see other than your own research!

Family History Beginners Board / Bigamy?
« on: Monday 20 April 20 13:48 BST (UK)  »
I would like to ask whether a 19 year-old man marrying in 1891, would have been considered not married at all, if he hadn't had permission from his surviving parent?
He joined the army six months after this marriage, possibly deserting the wife, and then married again in 1899, stating his condition as "Bachelor".
His older brother was a witness at the first wedding, but not his mother, who of course may have attended but not signed as a witness - but how would she have given her permission otherwise?  Could the older brother have given it?
Any comments would be much appreciated.

Armed Forces / Black Watch
« on: Thursday 14 March 19 12:26 GMT (UK)  »
I'm trying to trace someone, who joined the Black Watch and another British Regiment in the 1880s or 1890s.  Nothing comes up on findmypast or ancestry, which is where I'm directed by the Black Watch website and I wonder whether there may be another avenue I might try?  Also forces-war-records draws a blank.

Many thanks.

The Common Room / Felix Franz Alfred Ogilvie
« on: Saturday 18 August 18 10:57 BST (UK)  »
Felix Franz Alfred Ogilvie, born about 1874 and a German citizen, was tried at the Old Bailey in 1911 on charges of bigamy and fraud and sentenced to a total of 21 years, sentences to run concurrently (longest 10 years).  At first in Wandsworth, at some point he moved to Portland Prison, from where he was discharged on licence 2 years early on 30 August 1918 with the note "To be interned", presumably as he was German and WW1 was still on.
I have managed to find a lot on his enlistment in the US Cavalry, 3 (at least) marriages, Times articles on the trial, etc, but cannot find anything after 1918.  The National Archives site redirects me to findmypast for information on internees, but nothing comes up for him there.
I understand that not many records exist from WW1 for internees, and as Felix was always reinventing himself (he married as Francis Fraser Ogilvie and Charles Ellister Bradley) I wonder if his post-1918 life will remain a mystery.
I should be really grateful to hear from anyone who may know something or may even be related to him or know of him, although at the time of his trial in 1911 I don't think any of his marriages had produced his own children.
Many thanks indeed.

Hello.  I'm trying to find out what happened to my relatives after they married (1918, Richmond, Surrey) and emigrated to Canada (Freda in July 1919; Charles returned with the Canadian Army separately, having already resided in Canada and joined the Army there, coming back to Europe for WWI).  Their gravestone in St Andrew's Presbyterian Church, Toronto confirms their dates of death as 1970 (Charles) and 1977 (Freda).  Charles was born in 1881/1882 (birth certificate ordered) and Freda in 1895 (not 1896 as gravestone says).

It would be lovely to hear from anyone with a connection, too, as I have photos and correspondence to share (all pre-1919).

The Common Room / Mary Ann Grosser 1855-?
« on: Saturday 30 December 17 10:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hello.  One last sibling in the Grosser (sometimes Groser or Grocer) family is eluding me.  After her marriage to William Entwistle on 28 October 1872 (he was 21 and a private, 87th Regiment based at Cambridge Barracks, Portsmouth, Hampshire; she was from Smith's Lane (sometimes Court) in Portsmouth) I can't find any trace on the census, or children through GRO.  She would have been 17 at the time of her marriage.
Mary Ann's relatives are all accounted for now, so I know she wasn't with them, or at least not recorded as with them.
Are there any army records that I could try?

The Common Room / Elizabeth Cole Groser-Stewart
« on: Saturday 20 May 17 21:09 BST (UK)  »
My relative Elizabeth Cole Groser (born c.1869) lived in Portsmouth, Hampshire with her family.  Her father Thomas was a labourer/excavator according to the census and I understand the family lived in dreadful poverty, and lost several children in infancy.
One puzzle is that, on the 1881 census at 15 Smiths Lane, Portsea when Elizabeth is 11 years of age, her birthplace is given as "Cape of Good Hope".  In 1871 it had been "Hants, Portsea", as expected.  Is this just a bit of fun being had by her mother or father, do you think?  Does it have a secret meaning?
I can't find any trace of her after her marriage to James Stewart in 1889, except a possible Probate record of 1951 of "Eliza" Stewart of 57 Gladstone Street, Portsmouth.
Grateful for any comments, as always.

Hampshire & Isle of Wight / The Wickens Family of Chessell, Isle of Wight
« on: Sunday 22 January 17 13:24 GMT (UK)  »
I've been researching this branch of the family - Isaac and Charlotte Wickens are my 4 x great grandparents - and am hoping to put together a little story about them, their eleven children, 31 (that I have found) grandchildren and various residences and tragedies (orphaned grandchildren, etc).

It would be so nice to know if anyone else has researched them: Isaac (1793-1884); Charlotte (1794-1885).  I am hoping to find a photo and was considering advertising in an Isle of Wight publication, but I guess that would not only have to be seen by a relative, but a relative who knew who they were!

Best wishes,

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