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Sligo / Chambers from Sligo
« on: Friday 19 April 19 18:26 BST (UK)  »
According to Betham's Sketch Pedigrees, William Chambers and his son Roger Chambers split off from the Kilboyne Chambers in County Mayo. They settled in Cloverhill House in the mid-1700"s. It's located in Kilmacowen (Kilmacoen) near Sligo. Roger had seven children and it looks like succeeding generations also had many children. The family (descendants of first-born sons) can be found as late as the 1911 census in Kilmacowen. Cloverhill House no longer exists but a photo of it can be found in NUI Galway Landed Estates.
I am trying to prove that the Kilboyne House Chambers are not the main ancestors of the Chambers of County Mayo. My R1a-yDNA supports the theory that we came into Ireland as Redshanks from Macdonald lands. At the extremely rare yp1420 level, I have a match with a MacDonald. The final level below that, BY30235, has one match, Norwegian. Most of my matches, are Norwegian. So far, all the Chambers of County Mayo who have tested match me.
The Kilboyne House Chambers descend from the Hertfordshire Chambers. So far, one Hertfordshire test of a descendant of gentry came out as U106, a typical Anglo-Saxon, Northern German or Danish Haplotype.
I'm looking for a male Chambers descendant of the Chambers of Cloverhill, Kilmacowen, County Sligo who has taken a yDNA test so I can finish my research once and for all. I figure that there should be a minimum of 1000 living male descendants.

Thank you,
Tim Chambers

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Hertfordshire / Chambers Surname DNA
« on: Monday 02 January 17 14:29 GMT (UK)  »
A branch of the Chambers family from Hertfordshire lived as landed gentry in County Mayo, Ireland from the late 1600's to about 1800. Their Coat-of-Arms is the star on a chevron surrounded by three cinquefoils. This Chambers coat-of-arms can be found throughout the counties around London and in London proper. Apparently they are of Norman descent from the name "De la Chambre". Burke's Armory states that this particular County Mayo Chambers line comes from Hertfordshire.
YDNA test results of descendants of Chambers from County Mayo show they have a common patrilineal ancestor who was a Norwegian Viking. They test as haplotype "R1a" branching down to "YP1420", i.e., positively Norwegian.
That would be an unusual test result for a Norman Chambers. Chambers from England with Viking ancestry typically test as haplotype "I". Those without Viking descent are haplotype "R1b" (Western European or Celtic). Recent studies show that "R1a" in Norman surnames is extremely rare, perhaps 2%.
There were several "De la Chambre" lines and perhaps the Hertfordshire Chambers line is "R1a". There is also the possibility that there was a "non-paternal" event, something that happened to the most famous Chambers at a later century. (They are descendants of Sir Stepney.)
Have any male Chambers with Hertfordshire roots taken the yDNA test? I took my test with FTDNA but have no access to Oxford Ancestors or other testing group results.
Thank you.

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Antrim / Chambers yDNA R1a
« on: Sunday 01 January 17 16:49 GMT (UK)  »
Has anyone with the surname Chambers in Antrim (or Down) taken the yDNA test with results R1a?
Typically Chambers in Northern Ireland test results are "R1b" or "I" from their descendants in the USA.
My family test as "R1a" with sub-branches down to YP1420, showing that our paternal ancestor was a Norwegian Viking
Supposedly, my Chambers family was originally named McCambridge and MacAmbrois before that and came into Ireland with the MacDonalds from Kintyre/Islay.
I tested with FTDNA and don't have access to results from Oxford Ancestors or other testing agencies in the UK.
Thank you,
Tim

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Mayo / Mayo Chambers Family Origins
« on: Sunday 01 January 17 16:36 GMT (UK)  »
My Chambers Family came from the Castlebar area. Our yDNA test results are R1a branched down to haplotype YP1420. These results show our paternal ancestor to be a Norwegian Viking. From other tests done in the USA, I've concluded that the Chambers of Castlebar (including Pontoon, Crimlin and Greenans) are related to the Chambers of Newport.
The results support the possibility that the family was originally named McCambridge and MacAmbrois before that, and we came into Ireland with the MacDonalds from Kintyre/Islay . Plantation Chambers who left for America test as haplotype "R1b" or "I". English Chambers test the same as the Plantation Chambers. "R1a" is definitely the minority patrilineal line. Only about 2% of Norman Surname descent are R1a.
Family lore in Mayo say the Chambers came into Mayo from Tyrone. That supports the probability that they were Redshanks fighting for the O'Neals. It makes sense that they "came into Mayo before Cromwell" because they would have been on the losing side of the 1641 revolt.
Everything seems to check out except:
Sir William Chambers was a land agent for Colonel Browne in Westport. He lived in Ballinrobe in the late 17th Century. His brother, John Chambers, lived in Gallen. When Colonel Browne got into a financial crises, William purchased a number of properties throughout Mayo. He moved the family to Kilboyne House near Cregganbell where the family lived as Landed Gentry for almost 100 years. William's son, Thomas, was knighted and Burke's Armory states that the family came from Hertfordshire. The Coat of Arms matches Chambers from several shires around London. They are of Norman descent.
The direct line at Kilboyne House ended due to the 1798 rebellion. The last two sons fought in that war on opposite sides. Captain William Chambers was a hero on the English side in the battle of Castlebar where he was horribly wounded and almost killed. He died shortly thereafter. Captain George Chambers was hanged for treason at Ballinrobe. Kilboyne House passed on to Sir Samuel O'Malley due to his father's (Owen O'Malley) marriage to Anne Chambers. He lost the house during the Famine. It no longer exists. (They must have left a light on when they vacated the house)
Obviously, there are descendants from that Chambers family in Mayo. It has been suggested that all or most of the Chambers in Mayo descend from William Chambers or his brother. However, the yDNA doesn't fit unless there was a "non-paternal" event (Viking in the woodpile) prior to that Chambers family emigrating to Ireland. (It is possible and, at a much later date, there was a non-paternal event that makes the most famous British Chambers, bastard descendants of Sir John Stepney.)
Perhaps there are two unrelated Chambers families in Mayo.
So, I'm asking if any Mayo Chambers knows that their family is related to the Kilboyne House Chambers. Has any Mayo Chambers taken the yDNA test and found that they are "R1b" or, more likely haplotype "I"?

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