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Limerick / Place of birth in Croom, Limerick - GRAY
« on: Friday 29 January 21 18:26 GMT (UK)  »
Looking for help in identifying the place of birth for Jessie Helen Gray, entry 113 in the snip.

Her parents are Patrick Gray, a farmer and Jessie Gray formerly Ramsay.

Thank you!

Looking for some advice on an occurance that has left me a bit flummoxed. I have spoken about my Camerons before in other threads, though not about this particular query.

Here are links to some previous threads of mine about these Camerons;

Now, onto this "incident".
My ancestors are Duncan Cameron and Flora Stewart.

Duncan born c.1808 in Ross & Cromarty, probably either Contin or "Redcastle". It varies by census.
Flora was born 1812, Killearnan.

I have the following children for them;

Fin(d)lay       b.1834, Wellhouse of Kilcoy, Killearnan
Flora             b.1837, Inverness
Duncan         b.1841, Linlithgow
Elizabeth       c.1845, Burntisland, Fife
Margaret       c.1847, Burntisland
Mary             c.1848, Burntisland
John             c.1851, Burntisland
Jane             c.1854, Old Machar, Aberdeen
Catherine      b.1856, Keith, Banffshire

I have the couple/family in the following census (excluding 1861 which I will explain at the end)


High Street, Linlithgow

Duncan (30), a labourer  Flora (25) with children Finlay (7) and Flora (4). Also in the household are; Alexander Mccrea, Duncan Mccrea and Farquhar Mcgilvray


6 Petty Road, Kinghorn, Fife

Duncan (40) - Maltster   "born Inverness"
Flora (40)  "born Inverness"

and children;

Finlay, 16, Flora, 14, Elizabeth, 6, Margaret, 4, Mary, 3


See below


Grange of Barry, Old Manse, Forfarshire (Angus)

Duncan (60) - Ag Lab "born Contin"
Flora (55) "born Redcastle"

Daughter, Jane Cameron (18) "born Aberdeen"
Grandson David Robertson (12) "born Aberdeen"

NB David Robertson was registered as David Cameron (illegitimate), born August 1858 at Land Street, Keith, Banffshire. Mother named as Flora Cameron. Informant was grandmother, Flora Cameron. David's mother Flora later married a John Crow in 1862, Kirkden, Angus


15 Ernest Street, Arbroath, Angus

Duncan (72) - Ag lab "born Reed Castle, Ross"
Flora (61) "born Reed Castle, Ross"

Duncan then dies at this address in May 1882.


24 Hamilton Green, Arbroath

"Mrs Cameron" (75) "born Red Castle" ,            Gaelic and English speaker.
John (35) - general labourer "born Burntisland" English speaking only.

Flora dies at Hamilton Green, Arbroath in December of that year.

Now, onto the issue with the 1861 census, they appear back in Ross and Cromarty, either in Fodderty or in Maryburgh?

From what I know, the census was taken as a snapshot of one night only and it was taken on the same day?

I will post snips of what I have from 1861. It looks like the exact same family given the ages, and places of birth? Could someone have been "pretending" to be them??

The first is listed on SP under Fodderty, Ross and Cromarty
The second is listed on SP under Dingwall, Ross and Cromarty
But they both appear to be in Maryburgh?

Note the difference between the way David Robertson aka Cameron is noted, in one he's a "son" in the other he's a "grandson".

Any help appreciated

Lanarkshire / Place of birth on 1881 census - Carberry
« on: Tuesday 10 November 20 02:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hello, looking for some assistance on the place of birth for the bottom four entries seen on the snippet.

It's for a household of women by the name of Carberry, they were living at 53 Commercial Road, Govan in 1881.

Transcriptions state that it is "Commonlay Formanach"  and similar. This includes the LDS index on SP. I can't work it out.

I definitely think the first letter is an "F" due to it being the same as the F in "Foundry Labourer" further up the page.

It's possible it's somewhere in Fermanagh? Mary Ann aged 17 was married in a Catholic church in 1885.


Angus (Forfarshire) / "Clepanton"? in the parish of Forfar. THOM
« on: Friday 28 August 20 16:16 BST (UK)  »
Hello, looking for some assistance regarding this place mentioned in the Parish of Forfar.
It's from a baptism in 1742 for Ann Thom, daughter of William Thom.
The entry below has the same place mentioned. I can't find any reference to a place with this name or a similar name. It might have gone by the time OS maps came around.


Edit; I had considered "Clepington" which is in modern day Dundee, but this baptism is listed at Forfar itself and daughter Ann remained in Forfar and was living at Turfbeg at the time of her marriage.

Angus (Forfarshire) / Mary Evans in 1841?
« on: Thursday 23 July 20 00:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi, looking for some assistance in locating my 4x ggm in the 1841 census.

Mary Evans was born 1827, Inverkeilor. She dies 1879 at Echt, Aberdeenshire. Her parents are James Evans and Mary Cloudsley.

Her parents and 2 sisters are at Milton of Farnell in 1841 as follows;
James Evans, 45
Mary Evans, 50
Ann Evans, 20
Jane Evans, 11

Her parents, James Evans and Mary Cloudsley have the following children
Ann Addison, 1820  Guthrie
Alexander, 1822  Maryton
William, 1823   Maryton
Jane, 1829    Farnell
Mary, 1827 Inverkeilor

Mary marries George Easton 1846 at Brechin.

I can't find her on Scotland's People, FreeCen or anywhere else.

Any help appreciated.


The Common Room / When people don't provide important details they already know
« on: Thursday 09 July 20 15:45 BST (UK)  »
This is nothing to do with anyone here, but it's just a general rant.

I'm in a few genealogy groups across various mediums. Today, I have spent the best part of an hour and a half doing some research for someone only to find that they already knew what I had found out.

They were looking for information on someone, and they had posted their birth record and that they couldn't find anything else about them after this.

I had found comprehensive information about the child's mother, grandparents, siblings and other circumstances. I had searched various resources including records from other countries and cross-referencing with other records.

I am quite happy to do this when someone is truly stuck. I love research and I also enjoy helping people where I am able to do so.

I then check a well known public family tree site and discover the person asking information (they had the same picture and name across both sites) had already found out everything I had spent the last hour and a half researching. I could've spent that time looking into my own tree or helping someone else.

I understand if someone is new to research, but this individual has a well researched and evidenced tree.

All it takes is a few extra sentences of "they were here on this date, their children were here..." etc.

I deleted my response in the end.

I also should've checked the other well known site first before diving in so blame is partly on me for not doing so.

Please, anyone new or old to research please include as much information as you can to save people researching what you already know. I have been guilty of this in the past as a newcomer, but it is important to consider other people's time.
Thank you!

Aberdeenshire / Mary Gordon Anderson missing in 1911
« on: Saturday 20 June 20 16:55 BST (UK)  »
Looking for some help in locating Mary Gordon Anderson in the 1911 census.
Also unsure if I have the right Mary in the 1901 census.

Here is what I have so far;

Mary Gordon Anderson is born 1871 in Turriff, Aberdeenshire.
Her parents are Francis Anderson and Ann Hutcheon.

Mary G. Anderson dies 1942 at Donview Road, Aberdeen. Usual residence, King Street, Aberdeen.
She never marries and is noted as being single on her DC.

I have her in the following census;


50 Balmellie Street, Turriff.

Francis Anderson, widow, 51, Quarryman, born Gamrie, Banffshire
Francis Anderson, son, 20, Tailor, born Turriff
Robert Anderson, son, 14, Tinsmith, born Turriff
Barbara Anderson, daur, 18, born Turriff
Margaret Anderson, daur, 11, scholar, born Turriff
Mary G. Anderson, daur, 9, scholar, born Turriff
Isabella F. Anderson, daur, 5, born Turriff


Queen Street, Woodside, Aberdeen

Head of household is a Robert Hall, 46, Chemist and Druggist with his family.
Mary Anderson, 19, domestic servant, born Turriff


I think this is my Mary

3 Rubislaw Den North, Glenburnie Park, Aberdeen

Head of household is a William Mackinnon, stock broker, born Aberdeen
Mary (L?) Anderson, 30, cook domestic, born Turriff

She is indexed as Mary L Anderson here on SP. I don't think it is an "L" though. Will attach snip of census image. The "L" looks to be the same symbol as above for the "ditto"?

After this, I'm not sure where she would be in 1911.

Any help appreciated, although I know the name is quite common.

Aberdeenshire / What is this place name on a baptism in Aberdour? 1756
« on: Saturday 13 June 20 22:38 BST (UK)  »
Struggling to read the place named on this baptism entry for Christian Bruce.

I initially thought it might be Cuminestown, but on looking it up it doesn't appear to be in or have ever been in Aberdour parish.

Any help appreciated.

Hi everyone, looking for some help with a close match of my mum's.

My mum has tested with My Heritage, one of her closest matches is with an RM at 223.3 cM.

RM was adoped, RM's son manages the accounts and he states that RM knows who his birth mother is and knows her ancestry. When comparing RM's birth mother's ancestry with my own maternal side there is a common ancestor, but it's quite far back for a match of 223.3 cM.

The common ancestors are my mum's 3x great-grandparents. This doesn't seem right for a match of that size, but I could be wrong.

It's entirely possible that my mum matches RM elsewhere (even on his birth father, of which they have no information), her ancestry is heavily localised. In fact, my mum and dad share common ancestors as well, and I have found matches with myself who match my mum and dad on separate chromosomes.

Any help appreciated.

EDIT: I suppose it's possible that we share more than one common ancestor making the match with RM appear closer than it really is. I know it's relatively rare, but I have already experienced this with another match (not related to RM) where they match my mum on one chromosome and my dad on another and they don't share mutuals.

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