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The Lighter Side / A Distant Relative
« on: Wednesday 04 January 23 22:18 GMT (UK)  »
I've been having a lovely email conversation with two of my DNA matches.

Their great grandfather in some online trees has become confused with a first cousin of his with a similar name.

One of my matches has been messaging with a lady that has this great grandfather with the wrong parents in her tree. This lady responds to all messages and chats away about all things family history but her tree remains uncorrected.

Between the three of us we have a fairly solid paper trail and we have attached records to our respective Ancestry trees. I have attached to my public tree an image of the marriage of the first cousin showing clearly the correct father. One of the witnesses is the brother of this first cousin and these brothers can be connected to the correct parents with census and BMD indexes.

I have spent this afternoon roaming around this other lady's public tree and I have concluded that she doesn't actually feature in the tree herself but may be an aunt of the "home" person.

Assuming that there are no further errors in this tree I think that the "home" person might be.....

The fourth cousin twice removed to the wife of the first cousin of the half brother of my grandfather.

Should she be on my Christmas card list?  ;D

I love this hobby.

Tony.


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / One Word From Military Record
« on: Friday 11 November 22 18:38 GMT (UK)  »
Evening all,

I've been squinting at this for an hour now. Can anyone suggest what the word in brackets after 329 might be?

Many thanks for looking.

Best regards, Tony.








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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / One Word From Administration
« on: Saturday 27 August 22 16:34 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone,

I've been squinting at this word from the administration of a man who died intestate in 1946. Most of it is quite legible but I can't fathom the word after "Chapter 5 and amending acts", and before "to obtain a grant".

I'm sure it will be obvious to fresh eyes  ;D

Many thanks, Tony.




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The Common Room / Sentenced To Hard Labour In 1942
« on: Friday 22 July 22 20:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi Everyone,

I've come across a newspaper report from 1942 about a young man being sentenced to six months hard labour after being found guilty of theft.

I was curious as to what work he might have been put to at this time. Has anyone any thoughts as to what he ended up doing?

Googling about I have learnt that the treadwheel was abolished in 1902 and that the sentence of hard labour was abolished by the Criminal Justice Act of 1948.

I came across some Pathe footage featuring three of the great train robbers at Durham Prison in 1966 sewing mail bags and a record of the MP Renee Short asking a question in parliament about the number of prisoners sewing mail bags in 1973.

Very interested to hear what others think.

Best regards, Tony.




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The Common Room / A Twice Registered Birth?
« on: Thursday 14 July 22 21:14 BST (UK)  »
Evening all,

I'm looking at a birth on freebmd and it looks like a child has been registered twice in the same district in two different quarters. All details are the same in both entries apart from the quarter and page numbers which are different.

It looks something like this (disguised to obscure living person) :

Births Mar 1946 Ambleford 6C 1234
BLOGGS, Jane (mmn DOE)

and

Births Jun 1946 Ambleford 6C 1256
BLOGGS, Jane (mmn DOE)

I haven't come across one quite like this before and was wondering if anyone could shed any light on what might have happened here.

Many thanks in anticipation.

Best regards, Tony.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / French Baptism Translation
« on: Thursday 17 March 22 23:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Everyone,

Please could I have some help with this French baptism? I've been bumbling about with snipping and attaching for ages now and I have hopefully attached image.

So far I think it is the baptism of Hannah Elizabeth Alexandrine Macilroy, daughter of Alexandre Macilroy and his wife Elisabeth Reynolds at St Evangile, Paris on 18 April Year??

I am particularly interested in what the line " Irlandais attache ----? service -----? o'connor" might mean.

Thanks in anticipation, Tony.


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The Lighter Side / Arthur and the Mermaid Woman
« on: Sunday 13 March 22 15:13 GMT (UK)  »
Afternoon all,

My entry for inspired transcription of the week.  ;D ;D

I was looking for Arthur Macilroy in 1939 on findmypast and two likely looking ones came up in the search results. Looking at the first one (RG101/1557B/010/14 DDBH) in Coggeshall, Braintree, Essex I could see that this was my man as his occupation of 'Isinglass Roller and Cutter' matches his trade when I last found him in 1911. The transcription shows several unrelated people, mostly working with isinglass, and heading the household is Nora B Jackson whose occupation is given as

Mermaid Woman .

Cue an attack of the giggles and a look at the image!

The original reveals that the occupation of Mrs Jackson is .... 'married woman'. There is also a Harold Jackson who has not made it onto the transcription at all. He is a 'Company Director' and not  a merman!

Then for thoroughness I looked at the other result (RG101/1312B/010/14 CMBL) at Richmond Upon Thames, Barnes and here is the oddest thing. It's a slightly different transcription of the same people! This time Mrs Jackson is a 'Marmed Woman' (not nearly as much fun!), Mr Jackson is still missing and Arthur's birthdate is different. The image is of the same page and shows the Braintree location to be the correct one.

I'm not at all sure what has happened here but it has had me smiling all afternoon.

 ;D ;D Tony  ;D ;D

















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The Common Room / Messaging without appearing pushy - Thoughts please.
« on: Wednesday 19 January 22 21:49 GMT (UK)  »
Evening all,

Last November I messaged on Ancestry two DNA matches with the same surname, who I thought were  connected to me via shared matches to my McIlroy family. Let's call them 'MT' and 'LT'.

MT replied quite quickly and said that his grandmother was connected to the McIlroy name and had been a 'C' before marriage and that she was still living and that he would ask her about the family and get back to me. LT has yet to reply.

I answered MT on the same day and thanked him for the reply. I said that the 'C' name was new to me and that I would make more enquiries using this name. I also asked if he was located in the UK (one of the McIlroys went to Australia) and if our shared match LT was known to him. This message has a tick next to it and shows as 'read'. MT has not replied again.

The 'C' surname unlocked the puzzle and I'm pretty sure that MT is my third cousin once removed and that LT is his mother. The link to McIlroy is through his great grandmother, mother in law to his grandmother 'C'.

My dilemma is this: Should I message MT again telling all I have found and how I think we are connected or wait for him to reply with any information his grandmother might have provided?

Having lunch today with a friend we got to talking about this and she thought that my extra questions and mentioning MT's mother may have come across as pushy, or even creepy, and that privacy concerns might dissuade MT from further contact. She reminded me that perhaps not everyone is as absorbed in family history and the need to know absolutely everything about everybody as I am.

Would I be better to message MT with details about our shared most common ancestors and their immediate family who are long passed?

How have others dealt with this sort of situation?

Best regards, Tony.











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Hi everyone,

It's three weeks now since my Ancestry DNA results came in and I'm getting on quite well with sorting my matches into some sort of order. So far my traditional research is being confirmed and no one seems to have been 'playing away'.

The main reason for me testing was to try and prove or disprove that my 2xG Grandmother Mary Ann Thomas was the daughter of James Thomas and Caroline Kitcherside. Most evidence points to this being the case but on her marriage to my 2xG Grandfather William Holden in 1877 Mary Ann's father is given as John, not James. Earlier this year I had lots of help and advice on my Rootschat  thread about this puzzle.

My closest match is to my Dad's brother, uncle 'I' at 1932cm over 59 segments. 'I' is a Great Grandson of William and Mary Ann.

I also match to 'P' at 123cm/4 and his son 'K' at 52cm/2. 'P' and 'K' are Great Grandson and 2xG Grandson of William and Mary Ann.

Also in my Holden group is 'A' at 51cm/3, another 2xG Grandson.

Then it started to get exciting. I match 'L' at 10cm/1 and 'N' at 19cm/1 . Thrulines for both 'L' and 'N' is saying that our shared ancestors are James Kitcherside  and Frances/Fanny Street. James and Frances are showing as Grandparents of Caroline Kitcherside, potential mother of 'my' Mary Ann. Thrulines has 'L' and 'N' as fifth cousins once removed to me and third cousins to each other descended from an Aaron Adsett.

I have no shared matches with either 'L' or 'N'. Not even each other.

A google of 'N' led to a detailed website of the Adsett family history.

I have started to work a tree backwards, forwards and sideways from Aaron Adsett found on the 1841 census. So far my findings are confirming the Thrulines and Adsett website as correct. They are big families and a large proportion of them emigrate to Australia from the 1850s so lots to look at yet.

So is this my Kitcherside connection proved? Two things are bothering me:

1/ Am I going about this the right way?

2/ Should I be concerned that none of my Holden matches, known descendants of William and Mary Ann are shared matches to me with 'L' or 'N'? Or is this accounted for by the reduced chance of fifth cousins and beyond matching?

Thanks for reading to the end. Any advice or suggestions are very welcome.

Best regards, Tony.








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