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Sleuths required to identify suspect in police line-up.

Please identify by indicating position from left edge of screen as you view it (back row only).

NO STANDING ON HEADS.  ;)

A little explaining:-

Dad died just after my first b/d, and I have never been shown a picture of my father that anyone could definitely point out and say, "That's your dad."

Mum first showed me the "suspect" photo in my teens, at which time she was beginning to show early signs of dementia, and couldn't recall if it was a photo of my dad, or one taken by him; none of my siblings can say for sure either.

A copy of the M.O.D. Police photo was recently given to my sister-in-law (my deceased brother's wife) by a friend of hers, the father of whom was a colleague of my dad and both are supposedly in the photo, but no-one knows for sure which is my dad.

My s-i-l and I concur in our conclusion, but I would value anyone else's opinion before revealing our thoughts so as to avoid any bias.

Ironically there was a definite photo of my dad, but one of my sisters sent it to a pen-pal cousin in SA never to be seen again.   :'(

Many thanks for your participation.  ;D

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The Common Room / Adding a father after registering a birth
« on: Tuesday 15 December 09 08:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I understand that a birth certificate can be altered to include a father's name after a child's birth has been registered (in England at least).

Is there a time limit and would it be reflected in the birth indexes?

Thanks for any info.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Enumeration District for Beal 1851
« on: Saturday 25 March 06 10:06 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone tell me which ED Beal is found under in 1851? I'd like to browse the images on Ancestry, but I can't find Beal in the description for the areas I thought it might come under e.g. Birkin, Kellington or Knottingley.

Thanks.

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Durham Lookup Requests / 1841 census lookup please - Leslie, Mattinson, Thompson
« on: Thursday 23 March 06 19:42 GMT (UK)  »
Could some do an 1841 lookup for the following please?

1851/HO107/2389/145/15: 15 Crop Row, Kyo Laws, Durham
Hannah Thompson62/1789WHeadFormerly Cordwainers WifeNewcastle Upon Tyne
George Mattinson26/1825SSonCoal MinerNewcastle Upon Tyne

1851/HO107/2402/6/31: Victoria Street, Gateshead, Durham
Thomas Leslie29/1822MHeadJourneyman MasonScotland
Mary Leslie24/1827MWife-Newcastle Upon Tyne
Hannah Leslie3/1848SDaughter-Lanchester, Durham
Hugh Leslie1/1850SSon-Lanchester, Durham
Hugh Leslie50/1801MBrotherJourneyman MasonScotland
Helen Leslie38/1813MSister-in-law-Scotland

Notes:
  • Hannah Thompson (nee Eddie/Eddy): 1st Husband William Mattinson; 2nd Husband Unknown Thompson.
  • George Mattinson and Mary Leslie (nee Mattinson) are assumed to be brother and sister as Hannah Thompson is recorded as mother-in-law to Thomas Leslie in the 1861 census.
  • George and Mary are thought to have had a sister Sarah

Thanks for any help. :)

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Census and Resource Discussion / Where to request a census lookup
« on: Thursday 23 March 06 04:43 GMT (UK)  »
I have an individual who in the 1851/61/71/81 censuses for the Lanchester area of Durham, consistently gives his PoB as either Newcastle on Tyne or Newcastle Northumberland, but in 1891 gives his PoB as Gateshead Durham.

Not knowing where they might be, where should I request an 1841 census lookup - on this board, or Durham Lookups or Northumberland Lookups?

Thanks.

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Census and Resource Discussion / "My Ancestry Shoebox" problem
« on: Wednesday 22 March 06 09:38 GMT (UK)  »
I find I can't delete saved searches from my "shoebox" on Ancsetry.

The problem is the same for both Internet Explorer and Firefox browsers; does anyone have any advice other than trying to notify Ancestry?

Thanks.

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The Common Room / Cause of death?
« on: Saturday 18 March 06 03:00 GMT (UK)  »
I can read Morbus Cordis (heart failure), but the word beneath?

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England / Help finding individuals prior to 1891 please.
« on: Friday 17 March 06 20:27 GMT (UK)  »
I'm hoping that someone might be able to help me find the following family/individuals prior to 1891...

1901/RG13/2437/100/16: Chalford, Gloucestershire.
Head:Louisa A ATKINSON:W:1826:Living on own means: Quebec, Canada.
Daughter:Grace L H ATKINSON:S:1863:-:Belvedere, Kent.
Sister:Harriette L ATKINSON:S:1845:-:Ireland.
Could be a sister-in-law or could  be Harriette LESLIE.


1891/RG12/1601/91/8: Montecello House, Potterne, Devizes, Wiltshire.
Head:Louisa A ATKINSON:W:1825:Living on own means:Canada.
Daughter:Grace L H ATKINSON:S:1863:School Governess:Belvedere, Kent.
Sister:Emily Jane LESLIE:S:1828:Living on own means:Ireland.
The description for 1881/Wiltshire/Potterne/ED1 mentions "Montecello", browsing the images doesn't find Montecello House or neighboring Montecello Farm.

1881/RG11/1543/6/14-15: 44 Waterloo, St Giles, Northampton.
Boarder:Grace L H ATKINSON:S:1863:Governess (Teacher):Erith, Kent.

I have found a birth index entry for Grace Louisa Ellen Atkinson, b.q4 1862, Dartford, 2a/267, but I'm reluctant to apply for a bc until I've exhausted all other avenues of enquiry.

Essentially, I'm trying to find a connection with the above individuals and my G-Grandfather Hugh LESLIE 1850, a miner who came from Co. Durham1 who ends up teaching in Poulshot2 not far from Potterne.

Any blood-hounds out there?

11851/HO107/2402/81/6
21901/RG13/1926/105/6

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Wiltshire / Bodman help please
« on: Tuesday 14 February 06 06:07 GMT (UK)  »
Hi guys, I'm new to the forums and need advice with my Bodman research.

I received a GED file from a GR contact, unfortunately he can't remember the author and I wonder if I should accept the information as presented.

Here is the branch I'm interested in...

1 George Bodman  b: 06 Mar 1820  d: Jul 1896
+ Jane Eliza Watts  b: 08 Apr 1818  m: 21 Aug 1838  d: 15 Jan 1892
..2 John Watts Bodman  b: 03 Jun 1839
..+ Sarah Hobbs
...3 [1] Herbert William Bodman  b: 1866 London Middlesex England
...+ [2] Ester Sophie Bodman  b: 1865 Devizes Wiltshire England  m: 26 Sept 1891 West End Sth Brisbane QLD Australia
..2 Job Bodman  b: 07 May 1844
..+ Esther Shipton  b: 1846  m: 28 Jan 1864
...3 [2] Ester Sophie Bodman  b: 1865 Devizes Wiltshire England
...+ [1] Herbert William Bodman  b: 1866 London Middlesex England  m: 26 Sept 1891 West End Sth Brisbane QLD Australia
(Cousins Herbert and Ester emigrated to Australia, in 1884 and 1889 respectively, where they married).

By the dates provided, I'm certain that George Bodman and Jane Eliza Watts, and John Watts Bodman and Sarah Hobbs are my Gtx2 Grandparents and Gt Grandparents respectively (my Grandfather was Nelson Hobbs Bodman).

I found a marriage index entry for Job Bodman (Devizes/Q1/1864/5a/137 - Ancestry Beta) and the certificate has these details...

28 Jan 1864: Poulshot, Devizes Wiltshire
Name: Age: Condition: Profession: Residence: Father/Profession
Job Bodman: 19: Bachelor: Tradesman: Poulshot: George Bodman/Tradesman
Esther Shipton: Full: Spinster: - : Poulshot: John Shipton/Waiter
Witnesses: George Bodman and Martha Shipton

This is the census trail for Job Bodman...

JOBE Bodman/1851/HO107/1842/165/10
Job RODMAN/1861/RG9/1912/89/3
Job Bodman/1871/RG10/414/24/42
Job Bodman/1881/RG11/1309/14/21
Job Bodman/1891/RG12/241/74/1
Job Bodman/1901/RG13/944/32/10

I think this is a likely candidate for Job's wife...

Esther Shipton/1851/HO107/1654/357/25
Esther Shipton/1861/RG9/37/59/19

I found a birth entry for Job and Esther's daughter, Ester Sophie Bodman, under Esther Sophy Bodman (Melksham/Q4/1864/5a/91) and the birth certificate has these details...

Born: 01 Sept 1864. Registered: 03 Oct 1864
Where: Martins Slade, Seend, Melksham, Wiltshire
Father: Job Bodman. Occupation: Shoe Maker
Mother: Esther Bodman. Formerly Shipton
Residence: Martins Slade, Seend, Melksham, Wiltshire

The thing is, there's no evidence of an Esther Sophy Bodman from Seend in Job's census trail. Could it be that daughter Sophia in the 1871 census is Esther Sophy, and her place of birth has accidentally been dittoed the same as the mother?

To further confuse the issue, Job's father George Bodman 1871/RG10/1913/18/3 has a granddaughter Julia Bodman age 2 born Seend. I have browsed the 1851/61/71 census images for Seend, and can find no Bodmans at all. I get the impression that after marrying in Poulshot, Job and Esther spent a few years in Seend, between the 1861/71 censuses, before moving to London.

Thanks for any help unconfusing me.

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