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Travelling People / Nelson / Wilsher Family

« on: Monday 09 March 20 20:38 GMT (UK) »

So in the two census, we have Wilsher & Nelson families

Lotis Nelson nee Wilsher being the child of William Wilsher & Lidia Willshaw nee Jones, camping in tents, fast forward 50 years and we have the grand child of William & Lidia, being Henry Wilsher with child Joseph, camping in caravans along side his 1st cousin 1xremoved Alexandra Nelson, Alexandra being the child of Walter Nelson & Lotis Nelson nee Wilsher.

I have seen on marriage certificate that Alexandra Nelson states he is a showman, out of interest are there many different trees of the Nelson family or are they all interlinked?

I seen that there were other showmen of Nelson down south.

1861 Pontefract Yorkshire
Camping in tents

William Willshaw - 50
Lidia Willshaw nee Jones - 49
Joseph Willshaw -15
Lidia Willshaw - 13
Walter Nelson - 32
Lotis Nelson nee Wilsher- 32
Henry Nelson - 8
George Nelson - 7
Harriet Nelson - 5
Mary Nelson - 3

1911 West riding Yorkshire
Both families: camping in caravans

Henry Wilcher -23
Mary Wilcher nee Earl- 27
Joseph Wilcher - 4

Alexandra Nelson - 48
Eliza Nelson - 47
Robert Nelson - 22
Elizabeth Nelson - 17
Henry Nelson - 11

Travelling People / Nottingham stopping ground-Smiths Field? Help

« on: Friday 24 May 19 18:07 BST (UK) »

I have a question for people in the know...

A camp site has started to interest me...
I wondered if any one knows of the history of it.

Date 1900 -/+ 10 years, area Nottingham, name Smiths field meadow road?

I have censuses of great uncles and aunties being there in caravans, and now have the name turn up on a birth certificate for a cousin. I would love to hear about this place and its history.

Travelling People / Lidia Willshaw nee Jones birth abt 1812, family tree???

« on: Saturday 09 March 19 18:22 GMT (UK) »

So I want to start looking at Lidia Jones parents and siblings, since she is pre certificates what is the best way to do this and create a tree? I can't seems to find much on her...

Here is what information I have on my 5th great grand mother.

I have a birth certificate for Joseph Wilshaw 1844- Lidia son and mothers maiden name is Jones....

Census 1861

Lidia Willshaw
Age:49
Estimated birth year:1812
Relation:Wife
Spouse's name:William Willshaw
Gender:Female
Where born:Codbrough, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish:Pontefract
Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints
Town:Pontefract
County/Island:Yorkshire
Country:England

William Willshaw-age 50
Lidia Willshaw nee Jones-age 49
Joseph Willshaw-age 15
Lidia Willshaw-age 13
Walter Nelson-age 32
Lotis Nelson-age 32
Henry Nelson-age 8
George Nelson-age 7
Harriet Nelson-age 5
Mary Nelson-age 3

Any help would be great...

Travelling People / Help with Jim Wilsher 1875 abt

« on: Monday 18 February 19 19:56 GMT (UK) »

So I have tried to trace certificates of birth/marriage/death for Jim Wilsher but have had no luck... I would love to trace and see if he had any children also his direct line.

Jim Wilsher 1875 is the son of Maria Wilsher nee Knight 1847 and Joseph Wilshaw 1844, also being my 4th great-uncle.

I have him in:
Baptism-20th April 1881,
Place-Saint Phillip's, Sheffield, York, England.

Christian Children:
Fred Wilsher 1870
Jim Wilsher 1875 abt
William Wilsher 1878 abt
Walter Wilsher 1881 abt

Parents:
Joseph (Joe) Wilsher 1844
Maria Wilsher nee Knight 1847

Also have him in the 1981, 1891 and 1911 Census...

1881 census-Street Address 19 Slancer St,Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield
Joseph Willshaw-Age 37
Maria Willshaw-Age 32
Joseph Willshaw-Age 15
Tom Willshaw-Age 14
Fred Willshaw-Age 9
Tim Willshaw-Age 6( Jim Wilshaw)
William Willshaw-Age 3
Infant Willshaw

1891 Census-Sheffield, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Joseph Welshaw-Age 49
Maria Welshaw-Age 42
Jim Welshaw-Age 16
Bill Welshaw-Age 13
Walter Welshaw-Age 11
Emma Welshaw-Age 6
Henry Welshaw-Age 4

1911 Census-Fair Ground Brampton Chesterfield
Sarah Smith-Age 28
Florence Ann Woodward-Age 15
Selina Woodward-Age 12
Joseph Wiltshire-Age 69
Ryah Wiltshire-Age 60
Joseph Wiltshire-Age 42
Joseph Wiltshire-Age 26
Tom Wiltshire-Age 40
Fred Wiltshire-Age 38
Frank Wiltshire-Age 36
Henry Wiltshire-Age 34
Jim Wiltshire-Age 32
Billy Wiltshire-Age 30
Walter Wiltshire-Age 28
Henry Wiltshire-Age 26
Emma Wiltshire-Age 24
William Smith-Age 26
Madaline Smith-Age 29
Mareny Smith
John Smith-Age 30
Leanor Smith-Age23
Spencer Smith

Any help and ideas on tracing this person would be great!

Travelling People / Shortland...

« on: Monday 05 November 18 21:48 GMT (UK) »

Some many have seen my Joseph Wilsher 1907 abt posts...

So the other day I started talking to a cousin on my grandmother's Shortland side, who married my Joseph Henry Wilsher 1929.

I started talking about traceing traveler roots, he replied "that's right we have Romani in the family". He went on to say that the connection was on my Shortland blood line...

I spend a little time on Ancestry mapping out a tree, there seems to be direct lines of Shortland, Hall, Bartlett(seems to be a Bartlett marriage with a Bartlett). Indirect lines of Hughes, Cox.

Could any of these names be Romani lines? My cousin seemed so sure I thought I'd asked on here.

Travelling People / Census, 2 places at once??

« on: Friday 28 September 18 13:16 BST (UK) »

Is it uncommon or even possible for people to be on more then one census in the same year???

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Place of Death

« on: Wednesday 01 August 18 17:52 BST (UK) »

Hi,

I have a burial register for a Joseph Wilsher, Nottingham 1928, died 5 months old... I was interested in the place of death occurred, Sadly I am unable to make it out.

Any chance some one here can, its the 3rd line down and starts with 45??

Travelling People / Wilsher blood line, Nottingham, Joseph Wilsher

« on: Monday 30 July 18 16:18 BST (UK) »

Hi all,
I have just started researching my family tree. My Granfather Joseph Henry Wilsher was born 1929 in Nottingham. His father was meant to be also called Joseph Wilsher, who lived and died in Nottingham. The story told to my dad by Joseph Wilsher(Joseph Henry Wilsher dad), was my family were hawkers and before that we were gypsies. My dad on a visit to Nottingham was shown a photo of a group of my ancestors next to a wooding horse drawn carriage when he was a kid.

The problem I have is my granddad left Nottingham in his teens because he joined the army, he then settled southwest UK. Other then this small bit of information, I have extremely little to go on, has any one come a cross much information with this family in Nottingham, or what is the best way to look in to this subject?

I have ordered my Grandads birth certificate and waiting for that at the moment.