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Hi there.

Thanks for taking a look at this post! I'm trying to prove / find out more, about my 4th and 5th great Grandfather's military details. I use Ancestry but find it really very hard to get to grips with military records as I know so little about them.

I would like to know more about their military side for interest but also, in the hope it may shed further light on locations, next of kins etc.

Henry Duncan McDonald.
Born circa 1823, possibly in Lochgilpead, Scotland.
In 1841 I *think* he is at St Martin in the Fields, Middlesex and is a Soldier in 2nd Battalion Fusilier Guards. (I take it St Martin in the Fields was a barracks?)
By 1849 he is in Liverpool, as he marries a Margaret Robinson and is now a Shipwright - something he remains all his life. He is literate (can write his name.)

Malcolm McDonald
Born circa 1799, possibly in Inverness. His Mother is possibly an Anabella...
In 1841 he is listed as living with his (assumed) Mother in Kilmallie, Inverness as an 'Army Pens' (Pensioner?)
In 1849 he is in Liverpool (assuming he is alive) and is listed as an 'Army Officer' on his Son Henry Duncan's marriage cert.

I wouldn't begin to know wars that were being fought, religions likely to have been followed etc. I know nothing of Malcolm's military history other than his title on his Son's marriage cert. It's a really poor area of background knowledge for me to be honest.

Any thoughts that can broaden my knowledge of this line would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

Family History Beginners Board / Stuck with a Mary Ann! London/Liverpool
« on: Thursday 11 July 19 12:59 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone.

I'm having one of those brick wall moments  ??? with my 3rd Great Grandmother's history, and I've hit upon the same wall now for about 6 months, having got no further forward! So, I'm wishing and hoping somebody far more experienced/ detailed / knowledgable  than I, may be able to help me shed light.

Her name is Mary Ann McDonald

She was born, according to records, in 'Pimlico, Middlesex' around 1851.

Her Mother was Margaret, herself born around 1821 in Ireland and a Dressmaker. She was a Carragher (you can imagine the variations with this name!) She married a Robinson, briefly in 1845.

Her Father was Henry Duncan McDonald, born in Scotland around 1823.[/li][/list]

I *think* I can locate Margaret and Mary on the 1851 Census living in Avery Farm Row, St Georges, Hanover Square. The place of birth, dates and occupation match but also she is listed as married but Father is not present, which ties in too with my belief, that he was in Cold Bath Fields, Clerkenwell, Middlesex as a Prisoner (Ships Carpenter.)

Margaret was a young widow (married a Robinson)  when she married Henry, in Liverpool in June 1849. Mary Ann was their first child. By 1852 their next child was born back up in Liverpool and the family remain here.

I know a fair bit about Mary Ann's life - she married 3 times, lived briefly in New York, died 1st May 1904.... but her birth details are frustrating me! Especially as I can detail her siblings lives really well! All the subsequent Censuses lists Mary Ann as born in Middlesex, London or Pimlico consistently. I wonder if there's any chance she may have been born there but registered in Liverpool, given her Father being seemingly in Prison etc...

Thank you for even reading all of this mass of info. If anyone could shed any light I'd really appreciate it. Although I understand the Liverpool geography really well, London evades me.

Thanks, M

Argyllshire / Lochgilpead Beginnings (Possibly)
« on: Wednesday 10 July 19 20:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi there,

I'm trying to understand more about my 4th Gt Grandfather who was, Henry Duncan McDonald. I believe he was born around 1823 in Lochgilpead. Served in Royal Scots Fusilier Guards. His Father was a Malcolm McDonald who was an Officer in the Army, according to what he wrote on his sons marriage cert.

I'd love to find out more about Henry's beginnings and his parents - especially who his Mother was. I know he had an 'interesting' life including a spell in a London prison after he had left the Guards and was a 'Ships Carpenter' for the remainder of his life, settling and marrying in Liverpool.

Military records are absolutely not my forte and even Ancestry's not helping me much!

If anyone could shed some light or point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.

Family History Beginners Board / Dual RC/ CoE Baptism
« on: Thursday 16 May 19 12:34 BST (UK)  »

I've discovered a family line that crosses the RC/CoE a fair bit it has to be said! Something I always thought was sacrilege, especially in the Scotland Road area of Liverpool... Anyway. I have a relative James Edward Haynes born 3rd May 1899. He is baptised on 15th May at St Marys Church Kirkdale. John and Alice are listed as parents. This is the Church they married in too.

Then, on 13 Nov 1900, with the same DOB and details, he is baptised at St Albans RC. His Godmother is also his Grandmother here. On the records it has been written 'Conditionalier' over the top. Could this have some meaning towards crossing religion?

John and Alice have later children, can only find baptism for one other though - Ruth who is baptised RC at St Anthonys in 1905. Tey lose 2 children in 1909 and 1912 and they are buried at the Catholic Cemetery.

Any thoughts? Was this common?

World War Two / Japan WW2
« on: Friday 10 May 19 14:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi there.

I'm trying to trace (deceased) relative Stewart Bateman's WW2 records. I know he was a POW and the experience was never spoken about. As a child I remember the word "Japan" being bandied around but you were never told and you didn't ask!
He married a Hilda in 1944. Was born 19 April 1915 in Liverpool. The spelling of Stewart is accurate.

Any assistance would be much appreciated.

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Another Baptism Footnote Help Needed
« on: Friday 05 April 19 14:37 BST (UK)  »
Dear all,

I have just discovered another footnote that I'm struggling to read, let alone translate! If anyone can help, as always, I am most grateful. The lady here is one, Elizabeth Maher. Please see attached.

Thank you so much

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Baptism Footnote Latin Translation
« on: Friday 05 April 19 14:33 BST (UK)  »
Dear all,

I wonder if anyone could kindly translate the footnote in this young ladies baptism record please? Her name was Mary Margaret Maher.
Please see attached.
Thank you so much.


Family History Beginners Board / Frustrated!!
« on: Friday 08 March 19 15:23 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,

Where am I going wrong?! I seem to have exhausted everywhere to try to find a marriage between a Thomas Morris and Martha Ikin. They had a daughter Mary in April 1851 in Liverpool. Highly likely to have been born in the city and married here.

The only IKIN I can find is a Martha who, in 1843 married a LINSEY. So, I thought maybe he may have died and she remarried under that name but...hit a brick wall that way too!!!

I then thought maybe it's a typo and IKIN could be AIKIN? Struggling in this direction too.

Fairly confident this was a CoE marriage.

Any help or tips gratefully received. Having just fished my way through Owens and Brown surnames I thought Ikin was going to be 'easy!!'  ;)

Thank you

Family History Beginners Board / Help from better searchers than I please!
« on: Wednesday 20 February 19 14:29 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there,

I wonder if anyone is free and able to try to help me track down the baptism records of my Gt GM please?

Her name was Alice Brown. She was born at 46 Bostock Street, Bootle, Liverpool on 08 April 1889. Her parents were James Brown and Mary Brown nee Frederickson (1st husband) or Morris (maiden name.) The Frederickson name comes with variations depending on who scribed! I've seen it as Fredrickson and Fredericksen etc etc.

As far as I know they were CoE

2 years after she was born the family were in a court off Buck Street, Liverpool.

Alice had siblings:
James (1877)
Laura (1879)
Charlotte (1882)
Margaret (1884)
William (1896)

and what's frustrating is I can't find a baptism for any of those to give me a clue either!!!!   ???

If anyone can track down a baptism entry it would be so much appreciated.
Thank you.

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