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New Zealand Completed Requests / John and Mary Smith - Central Otago
« on: Thursday 28 February 19 22:58 GMT (UK)  »
Obviously I've drawn the short straw with these names, but it's worth a try.

Mary is believed to have been born Mary Taylor/Tayler (another source suggests Dial/Dyal) in Dublin, Ireland, in 1823, and had children (including my gg grandmother, Catherine, in 1851) in Tasmania with John Smith, before moving to New Zealand and possibly having more children. They settled in Bannockburn, where Mary remarried in 1870 (to Samuel Champion). The marriage certificate states she was a widow. Mary died in 1898 as Mary Champion in Invercargill. No probate for either Samuel or Mary. Samuel and Mary owned a pub after they married, and Mary was convicted of being a sly grog seller several months before they married.

I've not found much on John Smith at all. There's a rumour that he died in 1866 shortly after the family arrived in Bannockburn. They may have lived in Tinkers (Matakanui) and Cardrona before moving to Bannockburn. However, I've not found evidence of this as yet.

Any leads/suggestions/ideas for finding out more about this line? I've ordered Mary's death certificate (printout), but have to wait till it arrives. No idea which death certificate is John's as there are at least 8 possible contenders

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Derry (Londonderry) / George Crow of Kilrea
« on: Friday 21 December 18 21:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hi from New Zealand.

I’m trying to trace my gg grandfather’s parents - or in fact anything about him prior to his arrival in New Zealand (including the ship he arrived on).

George CROW was born about 1857 (based on him being age 40 at death, and age 22 at marriage). He moved to NZ approximately 20 years before he died (possibly around 1877, but certainly before August 1879).
He married Annie GILDER in Invercargill, NZ on 1st August 1879, and his occupation at that time was baker. Annie was born Yorkshire, England, and moved to NZ with her family, so it’s more likely they met in NZ rather than the UK.
He died 14 December 1897 in Mataura, NZ and left no will.

I have the printouts of his marriage and death certificates. Unfortunately he married the year before parents names were included, and his death certificate stated “not known” as his parents. It did state Kilrea, Londonderry as his place of birth.

Any ideas? Surname is sometimes written as CROWE. I did spot a George CROWE convicted on inciting a riot, namely the St Patrick’s Day 1874 riots in Kilrea. I don’t know if this is the same person or not, but my George Crow would have been around 17 at this time.

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