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The Common Room / BRICK WALL - Please Help! (William James England)
« on: Thursday 06 January 22 14:05 GMT (UK)  »
Hitting a brick wall with my great grandfather, William James England and would appreciate a fresh pair of eyes!

Here's what I know so far:
Born 1888-1890 I have lot's of verified documents for him that all give conflicting ages/DOB
- 1911 census aged 21 (1890?)
- Married my gt grandmother Lily aged 26 (1890)
- 19/07/1918 Army discharge papers age 29 years 3 months (April 1889?)
- 1921 census aged 32 years 9 months (Sept 1888)
- 1924 died aged 34 (1890)
 
All of these documents are 100% him, I have been researching him for over a year and know that the people/places match accurately - but his DOB and even year of birth are conflicting.

Other info:
1911 census he was in Bishop Monkton North Yorkshire where he worked with his soon to be wife, Lily.  His place of birth is recorded as 'Summersetshire'

1916 - Married gt grandmother Lily Banks in Ingleton, North Yorkshire -  William's Father is listed as Thomas England  (a coal miner). Lily's father also present.  I have purchased this record so know it is correct.

Army discharge papers have him discharged on 19/07/1918 at the age of 29 years and 3 months.  He was discharged due to Bronchitis aggravated by military service from which he died in 1924.


1919 - He and Lily had their first child - My great uncle Thomas William
1920 - He and Lily had a daughter, Doris (My nana)

1921 - Census! Living in Rainton with Lily and their two children, Thomas and Doris. This census says he was born in London!  No other info on there really other than he was doing light farm work part time.

1923 - He and Lily have their 3rd child, my great uncle Oswell.

9th Feb 1924 - died in Ripon North Yorkshire aged 34.

 
What I really need is a birth record - I have searched through hundreds with no luck.  Not sure if he was born in Somerset as the 1911 census suggests or in London as the 1921 census suggests.  I have traced every William England I can but the trail always goes cold.  I have no leads whatsoever for a mothers name and only know his father is named Thomas England ( coal miner) as I purchased William and Lily's marriage certificate.  As I said all info above I know is correct.  He has a brother listed on his death certificate - both from GRO and Army that states his brother either T or J England (i think T - maybe for Thomas after his father) who lives in Pickhill, Thirsk is the informant and was present at his death.   I have tried searching for him in surrounding areas on the census with no avail also.

Any help would be much appreciated! I was really hoping the 1921 census would shed some light but its just added another twist!
Thanks in advance!

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Hi all, I’ve been sent these photos as it may contain my great grandfather who
I’m desperately trying to find info on.. they are from a farm in Bishop Monkton.  could anyone give me a possible date please just to help narrow down if it could be him?

Many thanks in advance

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Hi all,
Would anyone be able to give a possible date for this photo and perhaps remove the tear from down the side?

Any help would be much appreciated :)

Many thanks in advance,
Lena x

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Hi all,

Hitting a brick wall with my great grandfather, William James England and would appreciate a fresh pair of eyes!
Here's what I know so far:
Born approx April 1889 - Army discharge papers have him discharged on 19/07/1918 at the age of 29 years and 4 months.

1911 census in Bishop Monkton (aged 21) states he was born in Somersetshire although unsure of this as this census shows he was working on a farm with my gt grandmother in North Yorkshire.

1916 - Married gt grandmother Lily Banks -  Father listed as Thomas England  (a coal miner)

9th Feb 1924 - died in Ripon North Yorkshire aged 34.

What I really need is a birth record - i have searched through hundreds with no luck.  I have no leads whatsoever for a mothers name and only know his father is named Thomas England ( coal miner) as i purchased William and Lilys marriage certificate.

ANY help really would be much appreciated!!

Thanks in advance,
Lena

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Hi, Would appreciate if anyone could decipher what this handwriting says please :)

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Hi all,

Would love it if someone could work their magic on this photo of my nana when she was 17 💕

Thanks in advance!
Lena

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Armed Forces / Can't find Grandads Army Records Robert Coleman
« on: Sunday 27 September 20 21:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi All,

I have been searching for my Grandfathers army records but no matter where i search it doesn't show anything - not even a match for his name!

His name is Robert Coleman - could also be known as Robert Peter Coleman, apparently he added the Peter in himself but think this was post army!
I know he was born 3rd Nov 1919 in Knaresborough North Yorkshire and joined the army young - my mum seems to think he lied about his age to get into the army which would suggest his DOB would be different on his records.

I'm also told he received a letter from King Olav of Norway - suggesting he perhaps served there?

The only other thing i have to go on is this photograph of him.  I am fully aware that all service records post WW1 are held solely by the MOD but all i would like to know is what regiment he served in at least.
I'm also told he was a boxer in the army too and went by the name of 'Chick Coleman'

any help is much appreciated!

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Hi all, Looking for some help with dating these two photographs of my Nana Doris with two cars in North Yorkshire, England.  Any help much appreciated :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Can someone help identify initial of first name
« on: Sunday 27 September 20 15:15 BST (UK)  »
Hello,  could anyone please help me identify the first initial of my great grandfather's brother from his notification of death.  Surname England. Many thanks  :)

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