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Can anyone offer their opinions or knowledge on this scenario...

I have ancestors who were living in London and in 1871 census the Father was working as a stableman (also a groom earlier in life) in the Royal Mews and the rest of his family lived elsewhere.

Of his family one in particular took an unusual route through life

He is Frederick George Turner aged 15 and a pupil teacher?

His father died in 1873 and yet in 1875-6 Frederick attended Winchester and became a headteacher in Devon in 1877.

Of his 4 siblings one became a journey man starting as a potman and ending as a house painter.
Another became a drapers apprentice becoming a shop-owner
another was a solicitors clerk and the final one i think became a maid.

My question(s)...

1) What did a 15 year old do as a pupil teacher?
2) Why did he wait 4 years until attending college?
3) Who paid for it? (quite big family, no father's income).
4) Why him?  why was his younger brother left to his own devices in London.
5) And finally, overall, what would be the aspirations of parents being a groom and domestic servant for their children in Victorian London.

Your thoughts and links would be appreciated.

Neal 

Can I ask some one to attempt this one please (I know you all have different search methods and software).  I am looking for a family in the 1841 census.  i have 2 or 3 people who should be in the same household but still can't find them.  details are:

Sarah Ann Turner b.1829 (Picaddilly)
Richard Turner b.1830 (Fulham)
John Turner b.1840 (Fulham)

Richard and John both born in Fulham so maybe same area by census time in 1841.

I will be impressed  if anyone can find this.

Regards, Neal

I am interested in understanding what a cause of death on a certificate means in 'plain English' especially in the context of the persons life etc.

Is there a Doctor here who can answer this?

The person I am interested in died in 1873 of...'Phthisis Apnaea'  He was 43 when he died and worked in or around London as a groom all his life.  He wasn't in his family household in the 1871 census (probably more to do with his work than any illness).

Thank you,

Neal

Hi,

A fellow rootschat memeber has led me to an ancestor on a census return but I am unsure of the place of birth.  It is in Surrey.

Can I ask those who are able, to look at the census return and offer their opinions (assuming you have a good knowledge of Surrey towns/villages etc.).

The return is of the 1851 census H0107/1602 folio 237 page 22 (20 individuals at that address)
The individual is Richard Turner.

Where was he born?

(as a double whammy - what  does Thomas Turner's birthplace read like?).

Thanking you in anticipation

Neal. 

Has anyone got the search techniques to find James Turner on the 1871 census.

He was born in Pimlico 1859.  The census for that area (belgravia) in 1861 are missing.

By 1881 he is working as a potman in Chelsea.

In 1871 he would be 12 his father/mother is Richard and Sarah although they may have been old parents and not even around by then??? (It is in fact Richard I would like to see but I have no other clues for him (no age or place of birth).

Thanking you all in anticipation, Neal