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Anglesey / John Williams, born Llansadwrn, c. 1845
« on: Tuesday 14 January 25 06:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I'm looking for information about John Williams born in 1845 in Llansadwrn in Anglesey. He's the furthest back our family can go with oral history. Our family story was that he was born around Menai Bridge and became a tiler in Liverpool, and owned property, and I've found some records to back that up, but not many. Apparently he tiled some buildings in Liverpool today that are listed (The Royal Hotel in Smithdown Road apparently being one of them, but I've not found proof of that) I've had trouble tracing him before he moved to Liverpool though, and was wondering if anyone could help.
1881 census:
66 Lightwood Street, Liverpool
John Williams, head, married, 36, tile layer paviour, b. Llansadwrn Anglesey
Mary do, wife, married, 29, b. Llanbadrig, Anglesey
Grace Ann do, Daughter, 1, b. Liverpool
Margaret Ellen do, Daughter, 2 weeks, b. Liverpool
Jane Parry, nurse, widow, 64, servant? B. Almwch? Anglesey
Hugh Hughes, boarder, unmarried, 44, builder, b. Llanbadrig, Anglesey
1891: 4 Yamwath Street, Liverpool:
John Williams, head, married, 46, tile setter, b. Llansadwrn Anglesey
Mary do, wife, married, 40, b. Llanbadrig, Anglesey
Grace A. do, Daughter, 10, scholar, b. Liverpool
Margaret E. do, Daughter, 10, scholar, b. Liverpool
Hugh J. do, Son, 8, scholar, b. Liverpool
Mary E. do, Daughter, 7, scholar, b. Liverpool
John R. do, Son, 5, scholar, b. Liverpool
William O. do, Son, 3, b. Liverpool
Cath M. do, daughter, 1, b. Liverpool
He also lives at 4 Yamwath Street in 1901. His children are living there in 1911, but not him. I haven't managed to find an entry for him. Mary died in 1891, aged 40.
Obituary posted in Liverpool Echo 6 March 1914:
WILLIAMS-March 4, in his 69th year, John Williams, tile merchant of 39, Ferndale Road (late of Yanwath Street)...
He died in the Tuebrook Mental Hospital, so I assume he could've been there at the time of the 1911 census? 39 Ferndale Road in Toxteth occupied by different family at the time, the same address in West Derby is also occupied by a different family.
Marriage record: 25 December 1876, Liverpool St. David's
John Williams, 32, bachelor, builder, of the parish Walton on the Hill. Father: Hugh Williams, Labourer.
Mary Hughes, 26, spinster, Queen Anne Street, Father: John Hughes, Farmer.
Witnesses: Thomas H[cant read full middle name] Morley and Hugh Hughes (all signed)
The witness Hugh Hughes appears on the 1881 census.
I've looked for possible baptism in the area and the closest I could find to Llansadwrn was this record:
23 April 1845, Llanfihangel Ysgeifiog
John Williams, son of Hugh Williams, Labourer, and Elizabeth.
Haven't managed to find anything about his parents, or any census results for 1851-61-71, not sure what to do!
If anyone can provide any help, I would be very grateful, thank you.
I'm looking for information about John Williams born in 1845 in Llansadwrn in Anglesey. He's the furthest back our family can go with oral history. Our family story was that he was born around Menai Bridge and became a tiler in Liverpool, and owned property, and I've found some records to back that up, but not many. Apparently he tiled some buildings in Liverpool today that are listed (The Royal Hotel in Smithdown Road apparently being one of them, but I've not found proof of that) I've had trouble tracing him before he moved to Liverpool though, and was wondering if anyone could help.
1881 census:
66 Lightwood Street, Liverpool
John Williams, head, married, 36, tile layer paviour, b. Llansadwrn Anglesey
Mary do, wife, married, 29, b. Llanbadrig, Anglesey
Grace Ann do, Daughter, 1, b. Liverpool
Margaret Ellen do, Daughter, 2 weeks, b. Liverpool
Jane Parry, nurse, widow, 64, servant? B. Almwch? Anglesey
Hugh Hughes, boarder, unmarried, 44, builder, b. Llanbadrig, Anglesey
1891: 4 Yamwath Street, Liverpool:
John Williams, head, married, 46, tile setter, b. Llansadwrn Anglesey
Mary do, wife, married, 40, b. Llanbadrig, Anglesey
Grace A. do, Daughter, 10, scholar, b. Liverpool
Margaret E. do, Daughter, 10, scholar, b. Liverpool
Hugh J. do, Son, 8, scholar, b. Liverpool
Mary E. do, Daughter, 7, scholar, b. Liverpool
John R. do, Son, 5, scholar, b. Liverpool
William O. do, Son, 3, b. Liverpool
Cath M. do, daughter, 1, b. Liverpool
He also lives at 4 Yamwath Street in 1901. His children are living there in 1911, but not him. I haven't managed to find an entry for him. Mary died in 1891, aged 40.
Obituary posted in Liverpool Echo 6 March 1914:
WILLIAMS-March 4, in his 69th year, John Williams, tile merchant of 39, Ferndale Road (late of Yanwath Street)...
He died in the Tuebrook Mental Hospital, so I assume he could've been there at the time of the 1911 census? 39 Ferndale Road in Toxteth occupied by different family at the time, the same address in West Derby is also occupied by a different family.
Marriage record: 25 December 1876, Liverpool St. David's
John Williams, 32, bachelor, builder, of the parish Walton on the Hill. Father: Hugh Williams, Labourer.
Mary Hughes, 26, spinster, Queen Anne Street, Father: John Hughes, Farmer.
Witnesses: Thomas H[cant read full middle name] Morley and Hugh Hughes (all signed)
The witness Hugh Hughes appears on the 1881 census.
I've looked for possible baptism in the area and the closest I could find to Llansadwrn was this record:
23 April 1845, Llanfihangel Ysgeifiog
John Williams, son of Hugh Williams, Labourer, and Elizabeth.
Haven't managed to find anything about his parents, or any census results for 1851-61-71, not sure what to do!
If anyone can provide any help, I would be very grateful, thank you.
