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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Is there, or was there, a Martin Street in Halifax?
« on: Thursday 11 July 13 00:57 BST (UK)  »
Greetings all: The burial database for Mount Zion Methodist New Connexion chapel in Ogden lists the address of relatives of mine as "48 Martin St, Hx." One relative and his wife lived there in 1899/1904. The second relative (brother of the first) lived at that address in 1941.

Problem is, when I try to locate Martin Street, Halifax on Bing Maps or Google Maps, the search takes me to streets in either Greetland (for Google) or Brighouse for (Bing). Both of those streets have Martin in the name, but they are not in Halifax.

Can anyone help? Perhaps the Martin Street in Halifax disappeared in redevelopment?

Thanks in advance.

John  :o :o :o

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Thought some of you might be interested in this story in Sunday's or Monday's New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/24/us/secrets-of-duffys-cut-yield-to-shovel-and-science.html?hp&_r=0


John  :o :o :o

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Edited Sunday, July 8, 2012. I mistakenly misnumbered the generation in question. James Houston and Jane Houston are my 2x great grandparents, not my 3x great grandparents. The distinction becomes important later in this thread when I talk about my real 3x great grandparents in the Houston line.

Hi all: I have a question--coming from the 1871 Scottish census--about the spelling of two supposed places in Lanarkshire. Are Seanahagan and Invereshow actual places in Lanarkshire? Or are they gross misspellings of actual places? Or do they not exist at all?

I ask because in the 1871 census, my 3x great grandfather was listed as being born "Invereshow, Lanarkshire," and his two oldest daughters are listed as being born in "Seanahagan, Lanarkshire." The family was enumerated in the census in Rutherglen, if that helps.

I know from various sources that my 3x great grandfather was born in Lesmahagow in 1828/29 and that his daughters were born in Bridgeton, Glasgow in 1857 and 1858.

Regards,
John  :o :o :o

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Update 3/21: How to access the free images without going to Ancestry or Findmypast: The U.S. National Archives chose Archives.com to host the 1940 census images. Go read the introduction at Archive.com: http://www.archives.com/1940census. No registration is required, but Archives.com has records that it charges for. So don't fall for the free trial that's offered at the bottom of the Intro page. No need for it to see the 1940 census images.

Original post
Hi all: Thought an Associated Press article on the April 2, 2012 release of the 1940 U.S. census might interest enough people to have it in the Common Room. The article is readable through the New York Times at http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/03/18/us/ap-us-1940-census.html?ref=us. The article was originally posted, Sunday, Mar. 18 and should be available for a few days on the New York Times website. Update: The article is still available on the New York Times website as of 10 p.m. Eastern U.S. time/0300 U.K. time on March 26/27.

The biggest news is that images are free to browse, but there is no index. The U.S. National Archives is having Archive.com host the census images (see the updated link at the top of this post). There is no index to the census, but at http://1940census.archives.gov you can learn how to find your people--if you have an approximate address--by searching for the enumeration district the address is in.

Archives.com, FamilySearch, findmypast.com, and "other leading genealogy organizations" are trying to control the indexing and have set up a separate site to "coordinate efforts." Two additional links at the end of the Associated Press article show how that works. They make it sound as if the index will be free. We'll see about that....

Regards,
John  :o :o :o

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Hi all: I'd appreciate a lookup in the 1871 census. William Drury, born Barnsley in 1805/06, was enumerated with his family (wife Mary and several children) in the Barnsley area in 1841 and 1851 (nearly illegible).

In 1861 William and daughter Hannah were enumerated in Halifax. They lived at 12 Wards End. Wife Mary was enumerated as a visitor with her brother's family in Darton, near Barnsley.

I assume that William and wife Mary were in Halifax in 1871, since he died there in 1872 and Mary died there in 1877.

Thanks in advance.
John  :o :o :o

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Updated with link to 1906 births.
The State of Pennsylvania has put its death indexes online at its own website. The death indexes cover the years from 1906 to 1961. Also online is an index of 1906 births. Those are the only Pennsylvania births online at the moment.

Read the entire post to make your search easier.

Added Feb. 29 Here is the URL to go to Pennsylvania's page with a clickable link to the 1906 birth indexes (the only year indexed):
http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=1086145&mode=2

The 1906 births are in PDF form and seem to be in simple alphabetical order. The second column on the PDF seems to be the mother's maiden name, but there are no column headings to verify that. Place of birth is also noted.

The first births PDF has 1906 births that were not indexed until the 1970s and later. They are arranged in index card form, from A to Z. They have the mother's maiden name and place of birth.

Here is the URL to go directly to the death indexes. There is an individual link for each year:
http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=1085804&mode=2

Added Feb. 24: Because navigating Pennsylvania's death indexes can be confusing, I'm adding a sample search in boldface below.

The general order of the death indexes is alphabetical within a particular year. However, the years 1920-1924 and 1930-1951 are organized according to the Russell Soundex System, which orders names using the first letter of the surname followed by a 3-digit code based on the other consonants in the surname.

To download a PDF with instructions on how to determine the Soundex number, go to http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/public_records/20686

This Russell Soundex PDF link is halfway or so down the page. This entire page at the second link explains the indexes and tells you how to get a copy of a death certificate.

The good news is that uncertified copies cost only $3.00. The bad news is that the turnaround time for mailing the certificate is 16 to 18 weeks.

Added FEB. 24:
AN EXAMPLE
The reply below prompted me to add an example of how to find someone who died in a year when the indexes are arranged using the Soundex system. Here's the surname COOKE, died in 1933.

COOKE is fairly easy to figure out. The problem is that the instructions for determining the Soundex code don't make it clear that the first letter of the surname is not part of the code. It's the letter under which in any particular year you look for the three-digit code.

So using C as the letter to look under, and ignoring the vowels, which are not included in any code numbers, we're left with one letter in Cooke, the letter K. The number equivalent for K is 2. Since there are no additional consonants in Cooke, the rest of the three-digit code is two zeroes. The code for Cooke, then, is C 200.

Three-digit code numbers under any letter start at 000, and they can go up to or beyond 663.

When you click on 1933 in the link (above) to the actual indexes, you get the following alphabetical list of of PDFs:

D-33 A-B.pdf
D-33 C-D.pdf
D-33 D-E.pdf
D-33 F-G.pdf
D-33 H-H.pdf
D-33 H-J.pdf
D-33 K-L.pdf
D-33 M-M.pdf
D-33 M-N.pdf
D-33 O-P.pdf
D-33 Q-R.pdf
D-33 S-S.pdf
D-33 T-V.pdf
D-33 W-Z.pdf

Cooke obviously is under C. So open the C-D PDF. There you get another list, this one of various letter combinations beginning with C, each followed by a three-digit code. For example:

COO 160
COOUET 230
CHA 320
CAL 414 and so

Since you're looking for C 200, you would click on COO 160 and scroll down in that group of pages until you came to the entries under C 200.

It's best to resize the PDF page down to 66% so that you can have all of the page columns on your screen, since unfortunately, in 1933, the code number (C200 and any other number) is in a center column, following the place where the death occurred.

In 1933, C 200 starts on p. 12 and runs through p. 18. Cooke (and Cook) are found on all of those pages, among other names coded C 200.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Relative lost after 1841
« on: Sunday 07 November 10 21:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all: I'm hoping someone can find Christiana Garside in the 1851 census for me. She would have been 15, but she is not with her parents, James and Rachel Garside, at census time.

Some background:
In the 1841 census, Christiana (born Silkstone in 1836) was enumerated with her parents and several siblings in West Bretton (HG107/1325/8). I have the census image.

I don't have an image of the 1851 census. Apparently, the census page--HO107 Piece 2326 Folio 169 Page 8--is in bad shape and difficult to read. But I do have a transcription showing James and Rachel Garside and five children. Christiana is not among them. Nor is her slightly older sister, Mary Garside, my direct ancestor. Mary is in Stainbrough (HO107, Piece 2333), enumerated as an innkeeper's servant.

James and Rachel Garside lived in West Bretton until at least 1881, so I'm hoping to find that in 1851 Christiana was in the vicinity.

Some evidence that she remained near to West Bretton: I've found a March quarter 1858 marriage in Wakefield for Christiana Garside to either William Copley or George Turner. I've also found a September quarter 1871 death in Wakefield for Christiana Turner, age 36.

Thanks in advance,
John  :o :o :o

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The Common Room / U.S. immigration records free on Ancestry (dotcom) thru Monday, 9/6
« on: Friday 03 September 10 16:29 BST (UK)  »
Not sure if folks outside the U.S. and Canada will have the same access, but I thought I'd post this here anyway (with apologies if any hopes are dashed!):

According to Thursday's New York Times, there is free access to all U.S. immigration records on Ancestry.com through Monday, Sept. 6. You will have to register for an account, though, to conduct searches.

The Times article--about oral histories from Ellis Island being added to Ancestry's collection--is here if you want to read: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/02/arts/02arts-ELLISISLANDO_BRF.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=%22ancestry.com%22&st=cse

John
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According to an item in Thursday's New York Times, there is free access to all U.S. immigration records on Ancestry.com through Monday, Sept. 6. You will have to register for an account, though, to conduct searches.

The Times article--about oral histories from Ellis Island being added to Ancestry's collection--is here if you want to read: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/02/arts/02arts-ELLISISLANDO_BRF.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=%22ancestry.com%22&st=cse

John
:o :o :o

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