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I am interested in learning as much as possible about Thomas Fryer and Ann Dunn, who were married, in 1779, in the Diocese of Cork and Ross, County Cork, Ireland, especially their ancestral lines.

They were the great great grandparents of John Denis Fryer, after whom the Fryer Library of the University of Queensland, Australia was named.

Apparently, two of their children were Jonas Dunn Fryer and Henry Hardy Fryer (born in 1789, and not their later great grandson, Henry Hardy Fryer, 1864-1935) whose names could be clues to their ancestors' names.

Some of their children were associated with St. Multose Church, Kinsale, County Cork, Ireland.

Thomas and Ann could also have been the parents of Josias Fryer, who married Catherine McDonnell, in 1807, in Ross, County Cork, Ireland.

Josias and Catherine are the Current Best Candidates for the parents of Thomas Fryer, who married Ellen Murphy, my great great grandmother, on September 20, 1834, in Kinsale, County Cork, Ireland.

As stated in his entry papers (1838) for becoming an excise man, my great great grandfather, Thomas Fryer, was also associated with St. Multose Church, Kinsale, County Cork, Ireland.

There is currently very little information about these individuals available online.

Thank you, very much, for any information that you are able to provide.

Regards, R. Paul R. Fryer.

Can anyone please tell me more about Thomas Redmayne, whose occupation was Hawker, and who was living, in Manchester, Lancashire, on April 03, 1881?

Please see http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_4141588_10&frompage=99 for additional information.

Thank you, very much, in advance, for any additional information that you can provide.

Regards, R. Paul R. Fryer.

Redmayne family lore holds that my maternal great great grandfather was “raised, by monks, in Wexford”.

As the “resolution” of this information is, obviously, minimal, I would appreciate your help amplifying it, “knitting the quilt” eventually learning “chapter and verse” about this individual, his immediate family, his ancestors, and his descendants.

The previous best candidate for my maternal great great grandfather, Thomas Redmayne, solicitor and, possibly, barrister, of the Rolls Chambers, 89 Chancery Lane, Holborn, London, Middlesex, England, was born, in Marylebone, London, Middlesex, England, about 1826.

Recently, however, I found the contradictory information, detailed in the attached file, from the Saturday, December 14, 1867 issue (Issue 523) of the Manchester Times.

The circumstances of the little boy, described therein, correlate well with the few known facts of the life of my maternal great grandfather, also Thomas Redmayne, labourer, cartman, and hay and corn merchant of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England, who was born, about 1859, in Camden Town, Middlesex, England.

However, these same circumstances change the current best candidate for my maternal great great grandfather to T. A. Redpath, who is mentioned as the unmarried father of the little boy.

He may have been related to Reverend Robert Redpath, a Presbyterian Minister and Secretary to the General Body of Dissenting Ministers of the Three Denominations, of 12 College Place, Camden Town, Middlesex, England, post 1832, who is known to have had a son named Thomas.

Consequently, there is a possibility that the earlier education of T. A. Redpath was religious.

There also remains the possibility that the mother of the little boy may have been a close relative of Thomas Redmayne, solicitor.

Hopefully, individuals with the surname Redpath and, especially, Redmayne were not too numerous in Wexford.

Also, I assume that some of the records stored in the Irish Public Records Office, located in the Western block of the Four Courts building, in Dublin, destroyed, by the explosion and resulting fire, on June 30, 1922, would have been useful to me.

Thank you, very much, in advance, for any information that you are able to provide.

Regards, R. Paul R.

Please see http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,316275.0.html for the detailed information.

Regards, R. Paul R. Fryer

My great great grandfather, Thomas Fryer, was born, in #, County #, Ireland, about 1810.

He married my great great grandmother, Ellen (Fryer), in Wellington, Shropshire, England, about 1833.

She was born, in #, County #, Ireland, about 1813.

Their first child, John Fryer, who later became a writing clerk, in Burslem, Staffordshire, England, was born, in Kinsale, County Cork, Ireland, in 1836.

Their second child, Robert Fryer, who later became a manager of a wholesale hatter, in Aston, Warwickshire, England, was born, in Kinsale, County Cork, Ireland, about 1838.

The next three children were born in Wellington, Shropshire, England, and the final two children were born either in Wellington, Shropshire, England or, possibly, in Dorrington, Shropshire, England.

In 1838, Thomas Fryer became an excise man.

This, however, does not explain his earlier mobility.

I have been unable to determine his earlier ancestry.

Recently, however, I noticed that there were at least four other Fryers, three of them in and around Derby, Derbyshire, England, who were also excise men.

Although my father’s third given name, Derby, was, ostensibly, bestowed, when he was born, in 1915, in honour of Edward George Villiers Stanley, the seventeenth Earl of Derby, I have begun to wonder whether my grandfather and great grandfather were also honouring family roots in and around Derby, Derbyshire, England.

James Fryer, Supervisor of Excise, of Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England, about fifteen miles West of Derby, Derbyshire, England, died about 1808.

John Fryer, Officer of Excise, of Spring Gardens, Derby, Derbyshire, England was born about 1784, and he died on November 12, 1846.

His wife was Mary (Fryer).

William Fryer, Officer of Excise, of Derby, Derbyshire, England, became an excise man in 1843.

His wife, Lydia (Fryer), died, on January 07, 1855, at Wood End, near Strabane, County Tyrone, Ireland.

Another John Fryer, of #, #, England (?), became an excise man in 1855.

As they had an occupation in common, these Derbyshire Fryers may be related to my great great grandfather, Thomas Fryer, which would help me determine his earlier ancestors.

Thank you, very much, in advance, for any information that you are able to provide.