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London and Middlesex / Frederick Clement Hayward b 1899
« on: Sunday 04 May 25 09:36 BST (UK)  »
Frederick Clement Hayward was born at 49 St Clement Mansions Fulham on 19 March 1899. His father was Frederick David Hayward (occ surveyor) and his mother was Mary Louisa Hayward (formerly Hodges) The birth was registered by the mother (resident at the same address) on 5th April 1899.
I have found Frederick Clement Hayward in 1939 and 1921 and his death in 1989

I cannot find the following:
Marriage for Frederick David and Mary Louisa
The Hayward family in 1901 or 1911

Please can anyone help.

Note: There is what I think are a completely unrelated couple (John Hayward and his wife Amelia nee Hodges) producing children in Wandsworth at around the same time, so there are other Hayward children with mmn Hodges

In 1901 the occupants of 49 St Clements Mansions are Annie Fenn, her niece Lily Stone and a servant Minnie Ward

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The Lighter Side / National Library of Scotland map site
« on: Saturday 05 April 25 16:03 BST (UK)  »
This site is frequently mentioned on Rootschat and I have found it invaluable for Victorian maps. But cannot access it today
Is anyone else having problems?

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Berkshire / Eltham family of Hinton Waldrist
« on: Monday 31 March 25 14:35 BST (UK)  »
John Eltham and his wife Margaret had three children baptised in Hinton Waldrist - William 1753, Mary 1755 and John 1757. John junior was buried in 1761 in HW. I think William went to Bampton.

There are two earlier burials in HW of a John Eltham and a Mary Eltham. They are both infants and buried on 21 Mar 1751/2. I can't find baptisms for the two so can't find parents, but wonder if they were twin children of John and Margaret who died so soon after birth they were not baptised.

There is a burial of a Margaret Eltham at HW in 1777. No age or relationships recorded, but she might be John's wife.

Can anyone find a marriage for a John Eltham and a Margaret possibly around 1750ish, please and a burial for John..

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Berkshire / Looking for birth registration 1853 /54
« on: Sunday 30 March 25 10:56 BST (UK)  »
I'm having another attempt to find the birth registration of my great grandmother Elizabeth Annetts. She was baptised in Chilton Berkshire on 16 April 1854. Her parents were John Annetts and Sarah nee Wallis. John and Sarah married on 21 January 1828 at Chilton. Elizabeth was their tenth and last child. Her mother would have been about 46 when she was born, assuming born not too long baptism date (1808). John and Sarah's first three children were born before civil registration began, children #4 to #9 were all registered. So why would John and Sarah not register Elizabeth? They had had enough children by then to know it was a legal requirement.
When Elizabeth married on 18 Jan 1870, her age was stated as 16, so her birth would be in 1853/ early 1854. I am wondering if she was JUST 16 and her birthday was 18 Jan 1854 or a few days before.
Her age in 1861, 71 and 81 is consistent with birth year of 1854. In 1891 and 1901, she has lost a year and birth year is 1855. In 1911, her age was originally written as 58 and someone has overwritten "60". If 58 was correct that would be a birth year of 1853. I am not sure if my great grandfather actually filled the form in, even though it says so on the bottom. He has gone from unable to even sign his name in 1870 to having very good writing in 1911.
In 1921, after she was widowed and filled in the form herself she said she was 65 and 5 months. If the years were wrong but the months were correct, that would indicate a birthday between 20 Dec and 19 Jan.
She died on 9 Jan 1924, age at death was given as 71. The death was registered on 22 January (which seems quite a long delay). She was landlady of a pub and died there. The death was registered by a W J Butler (present at death). I think he would be the Walter Butler (boarder and Barman) in her household in 1921). Not a family member so may not have known her age accurately.
Can anyone find her birth registration, please

added
She is mentioned here but not pursued as this thread was about the person I though was her mother but turned out to be her aunt
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=656392.msg5024289#msg5024289

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Looking for baptism and burial of Samuel Rideal
« on: Thursday 30 January 25 14:37 GMT (UK)  »
Samuel Rideal (weaver) and Betty Brigg (spinster) were married in Halifax on 10 Nov 1765. He was of Southowram and she was Ovenden (but not necessarily born there). Witnesses  James Wood and I think Henery Barber. Betty made her mark the others signed. They had six children in Halifax between 1768 and 1781. Baptisms in non-conformist chapel. Some trees have a seventh child Timothy, who is a possibility. I have found a marriage for a Timothy Rideal in 1787, witnessed by a Samuel Ridall (different spelling), but no baptism. Date of this marriage would be about right for him to be first child. The Samuel who witnessed the marriage signed and the writing is different, but he could be Samuel jnr b 1771. Timothy married Sarah Wilkinson, Samuel jnr married a Hannah Wilkinson (only found transcript so cannot compare signature).
The spelling is very variable. I am descended from Samuel snr's daughter Elizabeth and she spelt it Riddall.
Can anyone find Samuel snr's baptism and burial please. I am guessing baptism would be early 1740s in or around Halifax

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / My unusual family
« on: Wednesday 29 January 25 08:58 GMT (UK)  »
My second cousin (D) has recently done a DNA test. We match at 406 cM. This is within the range for second cousin but unusually high. The reason: D is the grandson of my grandfather's identical twin brother, so genetically it is like my mother and D's mother were half sisters and therefore D and I are like half first cousins. J is the granddaughter of my mother's sister ( therefore J is my first cousin 1R) Both D and I have matches with J, mine is 546cM and D's is 261cM. So D's match is consistent with him being a genetic half cousin once removed to J.

My grandfather had four brothers and three sisters. One brother as already mentioned was his identical twin, two of the other three were twins to each other (my mother said identical, but I have never seen photos and one died before I was born so I never met him).
Of the three sisters, two of them married a pair of brothers (not twins)! So far, only a great grandson (G) of one of these couples has tested. He would be 2C1R to both D and me. My match is 158cM and D's match is 201cM. As expected, in the range for 2C1R

But, how would grandchildren / great grandchildren of these two sisters match each other? Obviously they would have higher matches than if their respective mothers had married unrelated men, but by how much? It's beyond my brain to work out!

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Other Countries / Allenby Eltham
« on: Friday 24 January 25 14:07 GMT (UK)  »
Until yesterday, I thought my great uncle had only one son (Stanley Dermot Ryder Eltham b 5 Feb 1916 baptised 18 May 1916 in Meerut, India) with his first wife Kathleen Hilda nee Smith. Then I discovered the baptism of an Allenby Eltham on 12 Oct 1921 at Kussowlie, Christ Church, Bengal, (born 7 Dec 1919 presumably somewhere in India). On the 1921 census taken on 19 June 1921, Stanley was at Muttra barracks India claiming to be single.
Just before that I discovered that he was a divorcee when he married his second wife in 1936 (I had assumed he was a widower). I can't find any divorce record.
What happened to Kathleen Hilda and Allenby?

Related thread on Berkshire forum about second wife
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=790595.0

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Berkshire / John Hawkins bapt West Challow 6 Dec 1778
« on: Thursday 23 January 25 11:46 GMT (UK)  »
John Hawkins was baptised in West Challow on 6 Dec 1778, the son of Susannah Hawkins - no father mentioned. The only family of Hawkins producing children in W Challow at the same time were William and Jane (nee Penstone). But I can't see a Susannah connected to this family. William was from Faringdon and had sisters Mary, Sybilla and Jane. Sybilla died in 1765 and is buried in faringdon, so she can't have morphed into Susannah
Can anyone find out what happened to John and Susannah after the birth and Susannah's origins, please.

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The Lighter Side / How do I tell them?
« on: Tuesday 21 January 25 08:50 GMT (UK)  »
A few days ago, I noticed that someone with my rather uncommon maiden name had been viewing my Ancestry tree. I was curious to see if we were related, so I messaged them. She said that she had been researching for several years and had got back to the same ancestors I had in Oxfordshire. She opened up her tree so I could have a look. Her tree correctly has ancestors based in and around London back to births in the 1760s.
I have traced this line previously because of the unusual surname but found no connection to my Oxfordshire family. But she has a link via a man who as far as I can find had no children. He left a detailed will naming nephews, nieces, some of his wife's relatives and charities. Then to link him to my tree she has this childless man who was actually born at the other end of the country as the son of one of my direct ancestor's brothers (who was baptised 1680) marrying in 1769 - age 89!, and on the way was getting re-baptised in Cambridgeshire in 1722. She has collected all records she can for a man with the same name from wherever in England and attached them to one man.
How do I tell someone that their tree is so badly wrong. We may turn out to be related but certainly not through the link she has.

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