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Henry Morris, Yr Efail, Rhos Llanfaglan is in the Llanwnda parish burial book as buried 10 11 1869 aged 30yrs.
His parents, Henry and Janet* Morris, have Llanwnda address/es up to 1891 and died 1896, 1897 respectively. From what I see on FindMyPast they don't have the burial register from around Jan 1896 onwards.

Does anyone know if any have a headstone at the parish church.

I have all other details.

TIA

* various spellings

Utilising Keith's excellent Carnarvon Traders site I have found four family members from 8 Pool Side in the Llanbeblig burial book(s)   http://www.carnarvontraders.com/burials.shtml
namely
Mary Evans 4 1 1921 aged 66
William Evans 23 1 1917 aged 68
Elias Evans 15 4 1910  aged 22
David Evans 28 8 1893 aged 3

In the 1911 Census William & Mary are said to have had 15 children, 7 of whom had died.

Piecing together known info & the combined census going back to 1881 I can name 12 of them.

One angle I'm looking at to account for all 15 is whether there exists a headstone which may provide some further information so, does anyone please have/have access to the Llanbeblig MIs to assist with this angle? (I'm a bit too far away from the archives to go and do a look up)

Other addresses are 15 Pool Side (1891 census) and 13 Spring Place (1881 census)

Note 1: There are possibles in the burial book but not conclusives e g Jannet Evans, Spring Place (no number) 23 2 1881 aged 4 months

Note 2: Two sons Eliseus and Robert are known to have been killed in WW1, on the same day, same battlion, same battle. The town cenotaph has these two names but indicates a 3rd brother Evan. This Evan is proving to be a bit difficult to identify as from this family. I would have expected his name on at least one of the census.  Currently I'm leaning towards the cenotaph inscription being in error i.e naming all three as brothers. He is the only one Evan Evans on the cenotaph and there is Evan Evans from 54 Pool Hill who is a casualty but who is documented (and in newspaper reports) as from another family. N W Chronicle of 2nd October 1919 reports a 'public reception' at Caernarfon for overseas troop etc. Private wreaths were laid at the cenotaph including one for 'Eliseus and Robert Evans'

Note 3: I'm aware of the History Points website entry for the cenotaph   http://historypoints.org/index.php?page=caernarfon-cenotaph-fww-a-j
This site gives the correct details for Eliseus but incorrect details for his brother Robert. It gives the details for the Evan Evans from Caernarfon I mentioned above but sadly does not account for how he is one of the brothers.

I have included these notes to try and head off some uneccesary searching by rootchat members. The main thrust of my post is to determine if headstone data exists for the family.  Obviously , if someone has conclusive info linking a casualty Evan Evans to this family I'd welcome it with open arms.

Many initial responses to a query are often in the negative i.e 'over 2/3rds destroyed etc etc' but is it true nowadays to say that nothing can be found on a man just because he cannot be readily found in the 'Service' and 'Pension' datasets?

It might have been the right response at one time but there are so many other sources now available* that it is often the case that a reasonable pen picture can be drawn up of a man's service.

I realise that these types of replies are factually correct but most enquirers will not know that it refers to a narrow set of data  and might very well go away thinking 'no records exist'



* eg
Medal Rolls
Absent Voters Lists
Casualty Lists
Soldiers Effects Register
Newspaper info
etc etc


edited ( a few times!)

FAO Mods

This thread is meant as an attempt to seek clarification and not an attack on you Moderating work.

In a thread yesterday I provided links to various pages on the paysite Ancstry rather than laboriously write everything out. I did this knowing that the enquirer had access to that paysite (or rather assumed so from context of previous replies)

Those links were deleted and I believe it may be a copyright issue.

I have looked up the Terms & Conditions for this forum to seek clarification and cannot really see anything in secton 6 Copyright Material where this sort of practice is not allowed

It might be
6.6 You must ensure that your Content or information does not break any licence agreements, or terms of use set by Third Parties.

but I cannot really see where a paysite would think their terms etc are broken where one member provides a link to another member on a third party website. The link would be useless without the recipient being able to read it by virtue of being a paid up member and, for those who click through who are not then I assume they get a default page of that paysite explaining its virtues and why they should take a look around! Maybe that is regarded (by Mods) as a Commercial post contrary to
13. Make commercial posts or comment spam or attempt to disguise such spam as Content. Commercial posts are only permitted on the 'For Sale Wanted Events' board for a maximum of one commercial post per week, and only for the purpose of a family history (or closely associated) product or service.

but surely this covers owners of commercial websites trying to lure people on to their site not long established Rootschat members.
 
There is, in Specific Forum Rules:
12. Load or provide access to Content on the Forum or link to other content from the Forum, which infringes the trademark, patent, trade secret or any other proprietary right of a third party or infringes any intellectual property law. (my bold)

but again I cannot see where said paysites would think it infringes any of those matters raised.

Could I please ask you or Rootschat to explain to me where I'm going wrong. Sorry to come over all barrack room lawyery but it would make things much easier all round in being able to knock off a reply with providing a brief summary and a link to back it up.

Gwil

Richard Frederick Evans was a 22 year old valet at Gorddinog Hall, Aber, Caernarfonshire when he enlisted as Pte 818 in the Denbighshire Hussars Yeomanry on the 12th September 1914.

He went with the DHY to Egypt in March 1916 but was invalided back to the UK suffering from TB in August and was discharged unfit due to the TB in September 1916. His papers show that the condition was aggravated by military service.

He died at his parents home, Vicarage Cottage, Evenjobb, Kington 18th September 1918. The cause of death was TB.

As he is not commemorated on the CWGC database I have submitted his particulars with relevant evidence for consideration of inclusion. Had he not heeded the call to duty he would not have succumbed to this disease and I therefore consider him to be a ''war casualty'.

I'm quite confident that he will be accepted (many others with exact same circumstances have been) and, whilst the submission is being considered, I am now making efforts to locate his grave.

I'm told the requirements are
"  We need a copy of the burial register page, the name of the source of the copy (council, archive etc) and a contact name, number if possible. Obviously, a photo of any headstone is good but not essential." ***

The most likely place in the first instance is the churchyard at Evenjobb near his home.

Is there anyone please with a working knowledge of this churchyard or anyone with access to it's burial book that can help me?

As an aside, I have looked for a local War Memorial but not had much luck. Where would be the one covering this village?

Thanks in advance
Gwil Williams

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This quote is from the organisers of this group
http://www.infromthecold.org/