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Lanarkshire / William S GIBB proving elusive to find

« on: Monday 05 April 21 07:37 BST (UK) »

Hi Rootschatters,
William Sandilands GIBB is my Easter project only I'm not having much success finding him beyond 1935. Born 23 Aug 1896 in Wishaw, Lanarkshire, one of 8 children born to James Inglis GIBB & Jeanie Scott SANDILANDS, he emigrated to Australia with his parents and 4 siblings (not sure when) and appears on the electoral roll in Coogee, New South Wales in 1931, 1933, 1934 & 1935 as a labourer. His mother died in 1934 and when his sister died in 1941 her death notice reads, "Beloved daughter of James Gibb & sister of Agnes & Jim" per Sydney Morning Herald dated 05 May 1941. William didn't get a mention! He had siblings back in Scotland and England but they were not mentioned in family death notices published in Australia either so I suppose it is possible he travelled back to his homeland between 1935 & 1941 as I haven't been able to find a death for him in NSW.
I have found corresponding death records for his parents and siblings but can't seem to be able to track William down. I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
With thanks,
Sage

Canada / Hugh MURRAY & Mary PATON fr Scotland to Canada 1920s

« on: Wednesday 10 March 21 05:24 GMT (UK) »

Hi Rootschatters,
I normally dabble in UK research so Canadian searches are a little more challenging for me. I traced Mary Paton b 1902 Craigneuk, Lanarkshire to Wm Paton & Mary Russell, leaving for Montreal aboard SS Melita in 1927. Her Canadian entry papers 03 Sep 1927 state that her fare was paid by H Murray of Calgary, Alberta (Clerk with CPR) whom she marries in Montreal 3 days later. The marriage record is quite scant and doesn't offer up parents to help verify the details but I am certain it is my girl! I found a possible burial for Hugh Murray d 10 Oct 1951 and interred at Burnsland Cemetery, Calgary. The lovely people at 'FindaGrave' have added relevant info with wife Mary (no maiden name), one daug and a sister Jean in Scotland. It also discloses that he was a clerk for CPR which makes me think I might have stumbled on the correct record. I just need something other than circumstantial evidence to verify that all this info fits together. I have nothing on Hugh Murray before Mary goes to Canada to marry him but did assume that he might be Scottish born. I also haven't found a death for Mary though I suspect she may have remarried.
If anyone can help it would be very much appreciated. Regards Sage

Somerset / Surname NORMAN of Dunster Marsh, Somerset

« on: Sunday 28 October 18 04:03 GMT (UK) »

Hi All,
This inquiry is generated from Australia regarding one Kenneth Ronald Norman born 10 Apr 1918 who disappears after marrying in 1946 and having at least 5 chn. When he marries he says he's born Dunater, Somerset, England and declares his parents to be John Norman and Mary (nee Murphy). When he enlists in 1943 his mother is NOK living at 20 Conygar View, Dunster Marsh, Minehead, Somerset. On this record he says his father is Edward Norman and that he's born 10 Apr 1920...I think this is him trying to confuse the army as he already enlisted in 1940 and was subsequently discharged about 6 mths later.

A birth cert has been sourced by family mbrs which agrees with the birthdate 10 Apr 1918, born to Hilda Norman (no father recorded) in Biscot, Limbury, Luton, Bedfordshire, only he is one Kenneth Raymond Norman!

I have no idea if that is the correct record and I wonder if he was illegitimate and perhaps raised by family back in Somerset (pure speculation!)

I wondered if it might be best to try and source a directory that might locate Mary Norman at the above address in the 1940s and see if I can get some leads there. Can anyone help me please?
Sage.

Essex / George and Sarah Cracknell...siblings from Halstead area, different mothers?

« on: Monday 17 July 17 07:37 BST (UK) »

Hi Rootschatters,

I normally research Scotland records so having some difficulty with English researcj and hoping someone can help. Sarah Cracknell was born in Romford in 1843 to John Cracknell and Sarah Hasler. John and Sarah had married in the district of Halstead in 1840 and it was at least a second marriage for John because on the 1841 census there is an 8 year old Caroline Cracknell.
Fast forward to 1884 Sarah Cracknell (now Auger) took her family to Australia and she is said to have been sponsored by a brother from Rushworth, Victoria. I believe I have pinpointed said bros as George Cracknell who had arrived in Australia in 1854 and established himself in Rushworth. When he died in 1902 the records show his father was John and his mother Eliza Hawkin/s and that he was born in Hornden, Essex in 1835. I wondered if anyone can locate or knows of a marriage between this couple and can establish that they had a son George.

Sarah also had a bros James born in 1840 to John Cracknell and Sarah Hasler but he became a teacher and remained in England so I have been able to eliminate him as the bros who came to Australia. I suspect that George aged 5 is at the Vicarage House, Gt Maplestead with Isaac and Sarah Harrington in 1841 and that Sarah was possibly a Cracknell and related to John.

I seem to have a lot of circumstantial evidence and I think I'm on the right track, I just can't get the evidence to prove my theory.

Cheers, Sage.

Canada / Peter INGLIS and mother, Mary from Scotland to Canada in 1926

« on: Saturday 18 June 16 12:40 BST (UK) »

Hi All,

I was able to find a shipping record (UK Outward Passenger Lists 1890 - 1960) for Peter Inglis aged 20, an engineer and his mother Mary Inglis (nee Young) aged 43, both of 56 Hamilton St Wishaw, Lanarkshire travelling on board S.S. Letitia sailing from Glasgow 15 May 1926 bound for Quebec and Montreal. Peter was born 04 Jun 1905 in Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire, son of Robert Inglis and Mary Greenshields Young who married in March of the same year.

I had a quick look for Peter and Mary Inglis returning to the UK without success so I was hopeful that someone might be able to tell me where they ended up in Canada.

With thanks...Sage

Canada / TOM AUGER born c1843 Great Baddow, Essex, England to Canada 1883?

« on: Monday 23 November 15 06:17 GMT (UK) »

Hoping for some help to establish what happened to Tom Auger whom we believe was estranged from his family in Essex and may have traveled to Canada in 1883. The Essex Standard (Aug 1882) reported that Tom's wife, Sarah attempted to have Tom committed to an asylum because after an episode of sunstroke he was prone to 'paroxysms of rage' and that he had threatened to kill the children and herself. The attending doctor refused to sign a cert. of insanity but rather than pay a surety of 20 pounds to keep the peace for six months he was prepared to serve time in gaol.

I have not managed to find a matching death record for Tom in England but I did find a Canadian passenger list with a Thomas Auger sailing on board the 'Polynesian' to Toronto 24 Oct 1883. That entry was scored and it appears that he sailed instead on the 'Parisian' 30 Oct 1883.

Meanwhile, Sarah and her 5 children sailed for Australia in Oct 1884, sponsored by her bros. already resident there.

A family tree on Anc. indicates that Tom may have been murdered in Canada??? I was hoping that someone with more knowledge of Canadian records might be able to establish just what happened to him in Canada and when he actually died. Finding him has proven to be a solid brick wall over the years.

With thanks, Sage

Lanarkshire / Looking for Jane/Jean Inglis beyond 1861, Shotts area

« on: Saturday 17 October 15 02:36 BST (UK) »

Hi Rootschatters,

I am trying to trace Jane (sometimes Jean) Inglis (daug of Alexander Inglis & Mary Jackson) beyond the 1861 census where I think she was living with the Pettygrew family in Blackhall, parish of Cambusnethan, aged 21, single and a domestic servant.

I don't have a birthdate for her but she was aged 1 (Jane) living with her parents in Stane, then in 1851 aged 11 (Jean) living with her father and stepmother (Ellen Spence) and then 1861 as above.

I haven't found a marriage for her and wondered if anyone can please give me a clue as to where she might be beyond 1861.

With thanks...Sage.

Lanarkshire / James Ferguson died 1886 Hamilton

« on: Friday 02 October 15 03:21 BST (UK) »

I wonder would anyone know which cemetery to look for James Ferguson (Master Grocer) died 25 Sep 1886 at 29 Chapel St Hamilton? His father was Robt Ferguson and his mother was Lilias Thomson. His wife was Elizabeth Inglis. She died 14 May 1907 in Millport, Cumbrae, Bute so I'm thinking there's every chance that James and Elizabeth are not buried together?

With thanks,

Sage.

Lanarkshire / Robt Crawford and Elizabeth Hamilton born Scotland but reside Pembroke

« on: Saturday 18 July 15 13:15 BST (UK) »

Hi All...I've got myself tied up in knots over the above family.

Some background info here www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=669720.0
but as it's a lengthy post I will summarise.

Elizabeth Hamilton was born circa 1841 in Hamilton to Thos Hamilton & Marion Inglis. She married Robt Crawford in Dec 1863 in Pembrokeshire at which time he was a spirit merchant of New Milford. A daughter, Marion Inglis Crawford was born 19 Jan 1865 where Robt is referred to as R. J. Crawford.

An 1861 census was sourced in the previous post for Robt Crawford, aged 25, Chief Steward, married, born Ayrshire, Scotland and on board S.S. Courier in Pembrokeshire.

Last sighting of him is via a publication in the London Gazette dated 21 Feb 1865 by the Registrar of the Court of Bankruptcy for Robert J. Crawford of the Mariner's Inn, New Milford but....

by 1871 Elizabeth Crawford is a widow in Llanstadwell, Pembroke, Licensed Victuallar and I'm struggling to find Robt's death. The most likely options are:

Robert Crawford died Liverpool aged 33 Mar Qtr 1871 (8b 172) or aged 35, Woolwich Jun Qtr 1871 (1d 574). The 1871 census was taken 02 Apr 1871 and the latter death was registered in the Apr, May, Jun Qtr of that year. I suppose it's possible that Elizabeth was widowed in March and the death registered in the following month?

A second daughter was born to Robt & Elizabeth...Susan born Dec Qtr 1866 Pembroke (11a 732) and she possibly married as Susan McLean Crawford Jun Qtr 1894 to Josiah Evans or George Orlando Patey.

With that in mind I searched for a Robt Crawford born Ayrshire with a mother Susan and I found a family in 1841 in River St Wallacetown in the parish of St Quivox, Ayrshire:

Mrs Crawford aged 50, a Sewer, born Ayrshire
Susan Crawford aged 30, born Ireland
Isabella Crawford aged 10, born Ayrshire
Janet Crawford aged 8, born Ayrshire
Robert Crawford aged 4, born Ayrshire

1851 at Garden St Wallacetown:

Susan Crawford, aged 40, born Ireland
Robert Crawford, aged 14, born St Quivox
and 3 McFee visitors

The problem is I can't tie all this together. I don't know what Susan Crawford's maiden name is or who she married. If this is the Robt Crawford I'm looking for in Wallacetown and on the SS Courier in 1861 then it's possible he was married before he met Elizabeth Hamilton in Pembroke in 1863.

I hesitate to access the marriage of Robt and Elizabeth because it will likely only tell me the name of Robt's father and not his mother. Does anyone have some suggestions as to the next step I might take?...Please.