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World War Two / Re: Eighth Army abbreviations
« on: Thursday 31 January 19 16:26 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone help me out please. My dad was in the eighth army www2. I am trying to help my great niece with a WW2 project for school. They have been asked to give details of any relatives who served in WW2

He was in active service 1939-45 and in Germany in 1946 ( I imagine as a peacekeeper or helping clearing up the mess or maybe dealing with the concentration camps )

I have his soldiers books and I am having a wee bit of trouble working out the abbreviations and I’m looking for help

Mostly re his training which is :-

Radar - Haifa
Attended light ..? course

D.M gas test BARA (I think this was to test the gas masks and recognising different gasses)
Bara ( Italy??)

Tested and passed out as driver d&m (group?) trg ? Wing the rest Is faint but ends with DRA or GRA

Drafted as Doyle? At RATD. CNF

I don’t know what light ? Course it’s/means
Unsure if Bara is Italy but I think it is
Don’t know what trg is and the words after are indecipherable DRA/GRA
Dont know what Doyle means (if it is Doyle)

I presume RATD is Royal Artilliary Territorial Dessert and  CNF is Sicily Invasion Force

There’s also mention of RAMF or RHMF (could be Royal Artillery Munitions force or R A Military force ( I think this means he was also a gunner but unsure if it’s ramf or rhmf as writing is blurred

Any help much appreciated 

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Wicklow / Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« on: Tuesday 14 August 18 19:50 BST (UK)  »
Hello, I’m looking for any information re my ancestors from Wicklow, in particular my great grandfather who appears to be William (Valentine) Bestal b1862 Wicklow. I’m not 100% sure he is my great grandfather but a name Cullen appears on two certificates and the dates kind of tie in.

I’m looking for any information re William Bestal b1862 his siblings and siblings of his mother Anne Cullen and father William Bestal as this is where I’m at a loss.

If anyone has information at all to connect William Valentine b1862 to William Bestal b1893 ( my grandfather)  I would really appreciate it.

Here’s what I’ve got so far:-
William Bestal Baptised 5 may 1862, county Wicklow (could be my great grandfather), online baptismal certificate states his name was Valentine Bestal but Valentine is scored out and replaced by by William.
William (Valentine’s) parents were William Bestal and Anne Cullen (possibly my great great grandparents) sponsor on baptismal certificate is Mary Reilly. 

I think there is a strong possibility these are the parents of William Bestal (my grandfather) as the date and the name Cullen ties in with regards to my grandfathers baptismal certificate as per info below.

My gandfather was William Bestel (photo attached, (need to scroll to the right)) was baptised 1/2/1893 Rathdrum, Wicklow. Godparents John Cullen and Brigida Corcoran, parents William Bestal and Margaret Corcoran.

His mother Margaret Corcoran Baptised 22 Jun 1855 Avoca,co Wicklow.
Margaret’s parents were Rose Carroll and John Corcoran.
sponsors/godparents on her baptismal certificate are Richard Murray & Catherine Goggins

William Bestal and Margaret Corcoran were married on 2 Jul 1888 Avoca Williams address shows as Ballinakill, Margaret’s address - Bariniskey, witnesses John & Mary Sullivan. Both died in Scotland

William Bestel b1893 (my grandfather) siblings were
Bridget born Wicklow, Ireland Married William Martin in Ireland
Margaret married to .... Kelly.
Mary Anne Bistal b13 Sep 1888 in Avoca, Baptised 16 Sep 1888, Avoca, address Balinastraw, godparents Brian &Maria Laughlin
John (aka Jack) Bestial b12 Oct 1890 • Aughrm, Ireland Baptised 13 Oct 1890 as address Mongnacool, parish Aughrim, godparents Andrew & Margaret Cosgrove,
Edward b1896
Francis b1898 Wicklow
All died in Kilsyth Scotland apart from Edward who apparently died in Ireland possibly Wicklow as he went back to Ireland to work for relations

Timeline in brief
William Bestal and Anne Cullen
William (Valentine) Bestal b1862 Wicklow - son
William Bestel b1893 Wicklow probably son and my grandfather

If anyone has any information as to which Bestall/Bestal family William Bestall husband of Anne Cullen is connected to it and if William Bestal married to Margaret Corcoran is William (Valentine’s son) it would help me a greatly as I’ve been trying to find out for many years and have got nowhere.

It’s clear that the name should either be Bestal or Bestall, I have an old money box with the surname Bestall on it.

Thanks in advance.

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Wicklow / Betsal, Bestall, Bestil, Bestel, Bestle in Avoca, Co Wicklow
« on: Monday 31 December 07 17:59 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to find out information on a William Bestal. other spellings are  Bestel, Bestle from Avoca in Ireland,  he married a Margaret Corcoran and they are my great grandparents. their children were called Margaret, Mary, Bridget, William, Edward, Frank and Jack (John).

They were born in Ireland and moved to a village near Glasgow, Scotland towards the end of 1800's i think

Any information would be very much appreciated as i have been getting nowhere for quite a while now

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