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Hello Cornwall forum readers

I’ve looked but can’t find any recent discussion on RootsChat about the REYNOLDS family of St Agnes. 

They were big, and big in the mining world.  These two threads touch on some of them, without going into much depth:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=201080.0

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=263802.0

Cornish Maid’s quote below, from the second thread, refers to the REYNOLDS families I’m interested in. 

Hi Wendy
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I … checked the baptisms register from 1793 up to 1803 … there were a James and Elizabeth Reynolds who baptised quite a lot of children in the area!  Don't know if there is any connection.)
 

It turns out that there were two “James and Elizabeth Reynolds” couples in St Agnes in the late 1700s.  Both couples married in 1786.  So the St Agnes registers record about 14 children to James and Elizabeth Reynolds between 1786 and 1802. 

I’m descended through one of these James and Elizabeth Reynolds couples.  But even though I can see the lovely St Agnes register in all its digital glory on familysearch, it gives me very few clues to identify which one of these James and Elizabeth Reynolds families is mine, and who belongs in the other James and Elizabeth Reynolds family. 

I’ll start out below with what I’m fairly sure about.  I’ll make a separate post to start discussing the 14  or so kids with indeterminate Reynolds parentage!

My great grandfather was an only child - Thomas James Allen (TJA) Reynolds.  He was born at Goonbell, St Agnes, on 21 Sep 1878. 

TJA’s mum was Harriet Kite Reynolds (nee SAMPSON, born in Mingoose 04 July 1840 to Thomas Sampson and Joan nee ALLEN).  TJA’s dad was a tin miner named John Reynolds.  John was born on 30 January 1845 at Trevellas in St Agnes.  GRO certs confirm all this. 

John Reynolds (1845-1911) was the son of James Reynolds and Sarah Bennett ROGERS (also verified by GRO).  John's dad James Reynolds was christened in St Agnes during 1821.  Mum Sarah Bennett ROGERS appears to have been about 8 years his senior, christened in St Agnes on 24 Dec 1813, the same day as her mother was buried.  James and Sarah had four children after marrying in January 1843 – John, Sarah, Ann and James.  John’s father (and TJA’s grandfather) James was killed when aged about 35 in a mining accident in the Cubert United Mine on 24 Aug 1855. (There’s a report in the West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser of Friday 31 August 1855). 

James Reynolds (1821-1855) appears most likely to have been the son of James Reynolds and Ann CHENOWETH of Trevellas, St Agnes.  Ann Chenoweth is a bit of a mystery at this point (and as such is probably worthy of yet another long post this forum).  There are lots of Chenoweths about, including those on the other side of my family who were based in Perranzabuloe and Cubert.  Until recently, I assumed that Ann was probably born in the late 1780s or early 1790s.  However, the only St Agnes Ann Chenoweth was born in 1779 (parents John and Elizabeth).  Other than the 1821 James, Ann Chenoweth has at least one other son with James Reynolds – George, who is born in 1826 but not baptised until 1837. 

It appears that James Reynolds senior was christened in either 1790 or 1791.  Finding out who his ancestors and siblings are is the subject of this thread! 
 
Warm regards

Grant

Hello Cornwall forum readers

I’ve been researching my mother and father’s Cornish families for about 12 years, with quite some success.  But not with the Redruth Trewelas.  Every time I go near them, I get more confused. 

That’s partly to do with the quality of information available in the registers, partly to do with the legendary variation in spelling of the surname, partly to do with multiple families with the same parents’ names in the same region, and partly to do with the strong possibility that these folks moved about a bit. 

I am aware that there are a number of Trewela researchers out there, and perhaps they can help point me in the direction of likely Trewela families? 

Here’s what I know:

My maternal grandmother often talked about her family being from Redruth.  I’ve found that on her father’s side, her ancestors are almost exclusively from St Agnes.  Over on her mother’s side, there are Wendron lines.  The only line that seems to have any Redruth connection is the TREWELA line - my grandmother’s grandmother. 

Due to my grandmother’s repeated assertion that her people were from Redruth - particularly in the face of her largely St Agnes and Wendron ancestry - I have come to believe that the Trewelas must have strong Redruth roots.  The Trewelas are an important family in our ancestry, as the name “TREVELLA” has been passed down through the generations to the present day. 

I am certain that my 3GGM (my grandmother’s grandmother) was baptised in Redruth on 12 Jan 1812.  Her baptismal name was Christiana TREWELA.  I know what became of her - she married Thomas TIPPETT from Grade and they raised a family of seven in Relubbus, St Erth.  Christiana died in her early 30s of complications arising from a psoas abscess. 

On her baptism record, Christiana’s parents were listed as John and Mary.  It seems most likely that they are the John TREWELA and Mary THOMAS who marry at Redruth in October 1801 - further reinforcing the Redruth connection.  However, John TREVELA and Mary HARRIS also married in Redruth in 1790.  It is plausible that Christiana could be their daughter.   

A good place to start for me would be to sort out which of the Redruth region children belong to which John and Mary.  So far I have identified:

•   Richard TREVELA or TREVENA, baptised Redruth 1791
•   Mary TREVELA, baptised Redruth 1792
•   Mary TREVELA or TREVENA, baptised Redruth 1794
•   John TREWHEELA, baptised Gwinear 1798
•   Elizabeth TREVELA, baptised Redruth 1798
•   Susannah TREVELA, baptised Redruth 1800
•   Richard TREVELA, baptised Redruth 1802
•   Ann TREVELA, baptised Redruth 1804
•   David TREVELA, baptised Illogan 1807
•   Jennifer TREWELA, baptised Redruth 1809
•   Christian TREWELA, baptised Redruth 1812

I am sure there will be more. 

If some kind soul out there has already sifted through these TREWELAS, your learnings would help me greatly and I’d be ever so thankful.  :-) 

Very best regards,

Grant Limeburner Mitchell

Hello forum readers, hope your day is going splendidly. 

I'm writing on behalf of some antipodean descendants of William John READ and Charlotte Sophia LOVICK who came from the Portsea area of Hants.

We're 100% certain about our READ ancestral line back to hairdresser/musician/actor W J READ (b abt 1808, d Islington West, Middx 1857). The 1851 Census gives William's birthplace as Portsea. 

We know he marries Charlotte Sophia LOVICK (b abt 1811, d St Pancras, Middx 1885) in Alverstoke, Hants in 1829.  Charlotte is the daughter of Thomas LOVICK (b ? - d ?) and Sarah CHURCHER (b abt 1781, d Hoxton, Middx 1845).  The Censuses after 1841 all give Charlotte's birthplace as Portsea.  W J READ and Charlotte have 11 children, with the first couple baptised in Hants. Thereafter they move to inner north London. 

We're trying to find out who W J READ's parents and sibs might be.  We're also keen to learn whether there's any LOVICKs BDMing in Hants, or whether they're all strays from Norwich and/or elsewhere.  (We imagine Thomas and Sarah LOVICK perhaps would have had more children than just Charlotte in 1811, given they married in Alverstoke in 1801.) 

So ... I would very greatly appreciate if some kind soul could please share with me any details of 1800-1820 Portsea baptisms for READ and LOVICK - especially for places/times not covered by the current (excellent) knightroots transcriptions for Portsea and surrounds. 

Many, many thanks in advance, 

Limeburner Mitchell

Hello forum readers, hope you're having a marvellous day filled with breakthrough family history research discoveries.  

I've happily married into a branch of the LIMEBURNER family that was formerly based around the London dockyards, but now living north of Sydney, Australia.

I reckon I've linked the London dockside Limeburners back to a family of mariners from Kingston-upon-Hull.  I think John LIMEBURNER - who was ultimately a Trinity pilot - was originally based in Hull, running trade ships between England and continental Europe.  John was widowed (at least once) before marrying Mary Anne EDWARDS in 1789 in St Dunstan's Stepney.  I believe John and Mary Anne may have had a son Matthew, about a decade later.  It seems Matthew sadly died in 1801. 

I think young Matthew was perhaps named for Matthew LIMEBURNER, another mariner, who it seems may have had a large family in Hull.  I believe Matthew married Mary GIBSON at Holy Trinity Hull in the 1730s, and perhaps their son John (born 1749) is the John Limeburner mentioned in the para above. 

First and foremost today, I am interested in any relevant BMDs for the LIMEBURNER family of, and including, Matthew.  (A birth for Matthew would be awesome, because it may help to link him to another maritime Limeburner - but that's altogether another theory!!!  ) 

Any BMDs that may relate to Mary GIBSON or her family would also be of interest. 

Many, many thanks in advance  ,

Limeburner Mitchell

Hi there readers. 

My wife's great grandfather was Frank Herbert Russell. 

She knows her father understood that Frank was in military service around the time of Queen Victoria's death.  He was thought to be in the 6th Dragoons. 

His record of Short Service in 1902 has just come our way.  Indeed he was posted as a Private in the Dragoons on 01 Sep 1902.  But after training at The Curragh he was discharged 97 days later on 06 Dec 1902. 

Private Russell was discharged as "not being likely to become an efficient soldier".  The King's Regulations paragraph 1805 (III) (4) is given as the reason. 

Would one of the many learned historical military law scholars out there have the detail they could kindly share on this particular reference?

Thanks in advance, and very best regards,

Limeburner Mitchell