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The Common Room / Relationship according to Ancestry tree
« on: Monday 10 April 23 00:59 BST (UK)  »
I've only recently put a tree on Ancestry. Something I've resisted doing up till now, but having done the DNA thing it was necessary to get the most from it.

I'm confused about the following relationship.  Stephen and John Wood were full brothers, so why is Stephen described as a half 2nd great grand uncle? The only possible anomaly is that he was born before his parents married, but baptised afterwards and he is always recorded as Wood. He's clearly shown in the tree as a son of the marriage and is correctly described in my Family Historian tree as great (x2) great-uncle.


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The Common Room / De Bohun family
« on: Saturday 21 May 22 22:20 BST (UK)  »
I am very disappointed to see that this topic has been closed, apparently because a moderator did not like a couple of posts about the fate of a de Bohun in battle.

If any posts are breaking a rule then by all means delete them, but why penalise the thread starter and those of us who are interested in the de Bohun family?  If someone later comes along with more information to offer, they won't be able to add to the thread.

Please reopen the thread.

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The Common Room / Innocent errors on the census
« on: Saturday 29 January 22 14:08 GMT (UK)  »
My great-grandfather made a small mistake when he completed the 1921 census form.

In the household are himself as head; his wife; their six children; and finally his wife's father, Thomas.
Everything is fine until he gets to Thomas.  He should, of course, put "Father-in-law" as that is Thomas' relationship to himself as head of household.  But after listing all the children he has clearly lost track of the question, and (thinking of the children still) has put "Grandfather".

I shudder to think of the wrong paths I could have gone down if I had been starting to trace the family now, and had started with this census!   ;D

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The Common Room / Any plasterers in your ancestry?
« on: Saturday 15 January 22 16:28 GMT (UK)  »
Posted on Twitter by Katherine Hardy
@kardyology

"A note from Mr Gallop, the plasterer working on the Tate Gallery in 1897, uncovered during building work in 2013."



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Berkshire / Anyone have the Berks Baptism Index CD?
« on: Saturday 11 July 20 13:23 BST (UK)  »
I'm considering whether to invest in the Berkshire Baptism Index CD.  Hoping that somebody here who has got it can give a bit of a review.

I realise that it's still at an early stage, but I don't mind paying a fiver to upgrade periodically, which I have done with the Burial and Marriage index CDs.

I'm just wondering how easy it is to use.  They say it has three finding aids: Name Index, Name by Date, and Officiating Minister.  Are these indexed by surname only, or with child's forename or parent's forename? 
(I'm not expecting the minister's name index to be of much use.)


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The Common Room / Can't find birth reg on GRO index
« on: Monday 18 May 20 21:17 BST (UK)  »
FreeBMD has John WIGGINS registered Q3 1853 in Wantage RD, Vol 2c p 248
I can't find him on the GRO birth index though. 

I've tried a few variations but someone else may have better ideas.

Unusually for this period the scans are typewritten, so no help there.

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Warwickshire / Stratford upon Avon Parish Registers?
« on: Tuesday 26 February 19 13:59 GMT (UK)  »
Are images of Stratford upon Avon PRs available online anywhere?  I had expected to find them on Ancestry with the other Warwickshire PRs, but they don't appear to be included.

I am interested in a baptism in 1795.  I've seen a basic transcription but would like to see if there is any additional info.

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Armed Forces / 38th Regiment Overseas Army births 1840s/1850s
« on: Wednesday 13 February 19 00:13 GMT (UK)  »
Looking at the collections of Army birth registrations on FindMyPast, I can't see any years given.

My GG Grandmother Eliza Roberts was born in Halifax, Nova Scotia c1850.  She married in 1871 and named her father as John Roberts, Soldier, 38th Regiment. I haven't found a birth record for her, but the Worldwide Army Index shows John Roberts serving as a private in the 38th Foot in 1841 and 1851, service no 1886.  So looking at the postings of the 38th, I was hoping to find any possible siblings, but although a few Roberts results come up in the right places there are no dates.  Am I missing something?

It's Eliza's parents I'm trying to track down as they are a long-standing brick wall.  John Roberts isn't listed in the medal or casualty lists for Crimea, and he doesn't show up in the pension records, so is it likely that he died in service before the Crimean War?   If he had left the army and was still alive when Eliza married, I would have expected her to give his civilian occupation.  She didn't say he was deceased, but perhaps the question wasn't asked.


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The Common Room / Is this my John Roberts?
« on: Sunday 10 February 19 16:55 GMT (UK)  »
Eliminate if you can!

Eliza Roberts is my 2x great grandmother, but I haven't found her parents.  All I know is that she named her father on her 1871 marriage as John Roberts, Soldier, 38th Infantry.  Eliza gives her birthplace as Halifax, Canada, on the 1871 & 1881 census.  She was born c1850 and died in 1885.  She lived in Birmingham, but also had some connections to Warwick.

The 38th Regiment of Foot were in Halifax, Nova Scotia at the time of her birth, and I've recently come across the British Army Worldwide Index which confirms that John Roberts was a private in the 38th in 1841 and 1851.  His service number was 1886.  I've been through the medal lists for the Crimean War and he doesn't appear there, so I am guessing for now that he left the army after the regiment returned to England from Canada in August 1851.  (Some of the 38th are at Chester Barracks in the 1851 census, but he isn't among them.)

I've found a possible family in the census from 1861 onwards.  I note that John's birthplace is Wolverhampton, and the 38th was aka the Staffordshire Regiment, so that caught my eye.  I can't find this family in 1851 - can anyone help to rule them in or out?

1861

Woodbine Cottage, Darwin St, Bordesley, Birmingham

John Roberts, head, m, 41, brass tube maker, Wolverhampton Staffs.
Emma, wife, m, 41, Winchcombe Glos.
Thomas, son, 12, Birmingham
Eliza, daughter, 10, Birmingham
John, son, 8, Birmingham

1871

Woodbine Cottage, Darwin St, Bordesley

John Roberts, head, m, 50,  tube maker, Wolverhampton Staffs.
Emma, wife, m, 51, housekeeper, Gloucester
Thomas, son, unm, 22, tube maker, Birmingham
William, son, 7, scholar, Birmingham

1881

57 Dymoke St, Deritend, Birmingham

John Roberts, head, m, 60, brass tube drawer, Wolverhampton Staffs.
Emma, wife, m, 61, Birmingham
William, son, unm, 17, brass tube drawer, Birmingham

1891

7 Lovers Walk, Aston Manor, Birmingham

John Roberts, head, m, 70, case tube maker,  ditto (Aston – probably a copying error)
Emma, wife, m, 72, Gloucester

5 Lovers Walk

William Roberts, head, m, 28, case tube maker, Birmingham
Louisa, wife, m, 32, Birmingham
Violet, daughter, 6, scholar, Aston
Lilian, daughter, 1, Aston

Postings of the 38th Regiment were

1822 – 1836  India
1836 – 1837  England
1837 – 1840  Ireland
1840 – 1843  Zante, Ionian Isles
1843 – 1845  Gibraltar
1845 – 1848  Jamaica
1848 – 1851  Halifax, Nova Scotia
1851 – 1854  England
1854 – 1857  Crimea





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