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« on: Friday 03 April 15 20:28 BST (UK) »
Hello,
I am hoping against hope that someone may be able to break down a major brick wall in my family research, which has been blocking my path for nearly a decade now.
My great-great grandfather was James William Scully, who was born in St Luke in about 1862. I say about, because so far I have been totally unable to link him to any birth record.
I have the 1901 census which shows James Scully living with his wife Eliza, my great grandfather James, and parents-in-law George and Eliza Emmery at 45 Norfolk Buildings (RG13/269, Folio 27, Page 46). It gives his age as 36 (1865)
I have the 1891 census which shows James Scully and his wife Eliza living at 40 Aske Street, Shoreditch (RG12/248, Folio 98, Page 46), and gives his age of 28, so narrows his birth year to 1863
I also have his marriage certificate from 1891 when he married Eliza Sophia Bayliss (nee Emery), and his father on the cert. was listed as John Scully, a Scavenger. On the 1891 census John Scully was listed still working (or existing) as a Scavenger at 25 St Agatha Square (RG12/243, Folio 128, Page 22), and from this I have traced him back to 1881 at No 5 Type Court, Finsbury (RG11/368, Folio 48, Page 18), which gives James' age as 19 (so birth year of 1862).
1871 is less clear, but I have found a John Scully with sons James and William, and daughter Ellen (which matches 1881) and shows a wife named Elizabeth. They were living at 6 Red Lion Market
Now, here is where things get very confused. In 1868 there is a marriage for a John Scully to Ann Wilkins in St Mary Charterhouse. John and Ann where shown living at 3 Red Lion Market. Johns father was listed as also named John. So, was this the same John Scully who rose to the hallowed heights of Scavenger? It seems likely to me.
On Ancestry there are many family trees which claim that John Scully was the son of Dennis Scully and Ann Abbelling. But after lots of research, this seems highly unlikely to me. John Scully of Red Lion Market gives his fathers name as John, and besides, I think that Ann Scully (nee Abelling was listed in 1871 with sons named Richard, John and James (RG10/516, Folio 62, Page 19) so cannot possibly be the family of John Scully from Red Lion Market....
Many incorrect marriage certificates over the years make me wonder if John Scully was ever married prior to the birth of James William Scully. I am now beginning to think that James was illegitimate and took his step-fathers name, but anything is possible, and my conjectures have no basis in fact, as yet.
John has proved as elusive as his son. I won't even go into how many dead-ends I have run into looking for him...
If anyone can decipher any of the above and find a birth for James William Scully, or prove who he was, the Scully name can live on in my tree, and my noble scavenging ancestor John can at last be placed in history
Many thanks for reading, and helping if possible
Glen