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Shropshire / Eastwick - near Ellesmere - a Locality or a Township
« on: Tuesday 08 January 19 05:13 GMT (UK)  »
Can some local knowledge please advise re Eastwick "a township in Ellesmere parish".
Genuki has :
" EASTWICK, a township in the parish of Ellesmere, county Salop, 1 mile from Ellesmere."

But Edward Cassey & Co - History Gazeteer and History of Shropshire has:
"Eastwick is 2 and a half miles north-west from Ellesmere and contains 503 acres.  In this parish is an extensive tannery, the property of Mr Randle Jones."

The 1841 census has numerous families - both agicultural and tradesmen - as being at Eastwick.  Including at least two shoemakers.
So it is more than just a locality name I assume ?

Modern maps only get me to Eastwick Farm when I search for "Eastwick" - and even looking at old maps - I dont see it as a "township".

My John Davies born about 1730 - a corviser / corvisor (boot and shoemaker) - may have located himself there due the leather tanning in that area.
Curious that this trade is closer to the source material - than to his customers ?

John Davies burial record of 1777 at Ellesmere has him as being 'of Eastwick".

His two children were baptised at Ellesmere with their location being noted as being of Eastwick - and his daughter Mary Davies (1771 - 1838) - as Mary Parry - retired to Eastwick from Chester in her last years - and her Ellesmere burial record has her as being of Eastwick although the death certificate has her death at Dudleston Heath.

Lindsay / South Australia

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Lancashire / Eaves Lane - Chorley - History
« on: Thursday 13 July 17 03:58 BST (UK)  »
Richard Chorley on 2nd February 1690, granted a lease over a property, to James Ainscow, for the life of his son John Ainscow.
The property was "in the Eaves Lane in C. (Chorley) late Tootells, formerly Wrennowes, and anciently Wareing Woods".
The names Tootell, Wrennowe and Wareing are of families of note in the area, so it appears the area took on the names of its occupants at different times.
The land was 9 acres, 1 rood, 24 perches.  Today being 3.8 hectares.

Question 1:  Do I assume that this was just an area of land that was being leased for agriculture ?  And whatever this means : the "Boones" were "shearing x 2" and "hens x 2".

Question 2: Whilst the lease was undertaken by James Ainscow for the life of his son John, there are two other people mentioned - "Ailese daughter of John Waring and Thomas Gillibrand son of Robert Gill.: soe long live".  I don't know why James Ainscow would be adding these extra people to the lease.  As it turned out, the lease lasted until 1704 when John Ainscow died.

Given that my Ainscow roots have been traced back to Chorley in this era, I was just curious as to what they were up to.  They seem to have been a family of some means, being involved in this lease, being Church Wardens, able to at least write their name, and to leave wills.

Cheers - Lindsay / Australia

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Devon / APPLEPAN - A Devon Location ? COMPLETED
« on: Sunday 04 December 16 01:16 GMT (UK)  »
In a document dated 1 Feb 1851 (Merchant Navy Certificate) - the place of birth has been given as APPLEPAN, DEVON.  In two places on the documents.
Anyone have any clue as to this location ?
My belief is that the family was from Brixham.
Certainly, this person was married at Brixham in 1829.
Cheers all
Lindsay

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Breconshire / Williams : Clockmakers of Trecastle
« on: Monday 04 May 15 09:55 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to put together my Williams ancestry and whilst I can find tantalising snippets about the Williams family of clock and watch makers of Trecastle (and Brecon and Newport), I cant quite work out the earlier generations of the family.
If anyone has a copy of the book about the families in the  Llywel area "Roots and Branches" by T.O.Evans, you might let me know if there is anything of this family, to justify me getting a copy for myself.
The first mention of the family I find is a WILLIAM GRIFFITH a clockmaker - who was supposedly from Devynock. I know that he was the son of GRIFFITH DAVID (patronymic).
William Griffith was buried at St David's, Llywel : "William Griffith David of Ynnsfain Trayan-Glaes clock maker was buried March ye 13th 1786".
There were supposedly 4 sons : 1) William, 2) Rees, 3) Griffith and 4) John.
1) William Williams buried Llywel 1827 aged 92 (1735).
I dont know anything more about William Williams.
2) Rees Williams buried Llywel 1827 aged 90 (1737).
My 5 x ggrandfather.  I know more of him and his family history.
3) Griffith Williams.
Active in Newport until 1795.  I assume that is his year of death - no more info, apart from finding a photo of one of his clocks made in Newport in 1775.
4) John Williams buried Llanfihangel Nant Bran 1822 aged 81 (1741).
If I have the right person: he lived at Berthddu  or Berth-ddu in Ysclydach area of the Llywel parish and I have worked out a bit of his history.

I know of the early Williams connection to the property known as Ynysfain / Ynysfaen, near Cwmwysg in Traean-glas area of Llywel parish.

A number of descendants of this family were also clock and / or watch makers.

I have scoured the Llywel parish register looking for baptisms for the four sons of William Griffith - patronymic in mind - to no avail.  And also Devynock (Defynnog).  Any clues ?

Regards : Lins / South Australia.

Since posting : I have found in the Jones - History of Brecknock (Vol II Part II) - a reference to a William Griffiths in the section on Devynock.  Is he the same William Griffith mentioned above ?  I am not sure of the year that the text is written by Theophilus Jones, in relation to the date of death of my William Griffith in 1786.

Page 678 : "The above Rees Williams was sheriff of Breconshire in 1611 and was the ancestor of William Griffiths, late of Blancrai, now living near Devynock village".

Page 678 : when describing the interior of Devynock church -  "Above, on the wall, is a small tablet to the memory of two children of the before named William Griffiths ~ ~ ~ ".





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A number of parish records (1760s for example) for St Martins, gives the family abode as being 'The Rock'.
I cant find any modern equivalent to a locality near St Martins that would have housed families, other than a place called The Rock Farm.
Somebody with some local knowledge who might know something more of this place ?
Thanks . . . Lindsay

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Cheshire / GLEAVE of Altrincham - before 1700
« on: Tuesday 21 May 13 02:08 BST (UK)  »
Tracing my Gleave ancestry has brought me to William Gleave of Altrincham - who married Elizabeth Hardy in 1698 - and Grace Bury in 1710.
Children were Mary Gleave 1700, William Gleave 1701, and John Gleave 1703.
I have a possible birth for William Gleave in 1666 to father John Gleave.  And a marriage of a John Gleave in 1652 to Elizabeth Jones.

All family records in this era have been at Bowdon.  Getting further back using the Bowdon images at Findmypast is problematic - as they are not exactly easy to read - as evidenced by the guesswork in the transcriptions.

This Gleave clan is usually seen in occupations like shoemaker, gardener, husbandman, yeoman.

Linking the Altrincham Gleave branch to the Gleave ancestry of High Leigh is a bit of a stretch - which was one aspiration - but to date - no link has been established.

I have a copy of Peggy Sumner's book - The Story of the Gleaves of High Leigh - but no obvious mention of Altrincham jumps out.

The point of this post, is to see if there are other researchers for GLEAVE of Altrincham around this period or before.

Lindsay / South Australia.

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Montgomeryshire / Mellyniog Vechan near Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain - Local Knowledge ?
« on: Wednesday 15 August 12 13:35 BST (UK)  »
After years of researching my Parry ancestry in English records mostly, today I find a John Parry baptised at Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain (1733), and with a possible burial for him also at Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain in 1810 - with the abode transcribed as "Melyniog fach".  Trying to research that name "Melyniog fach", I can only find a few references to a "Mellyniog Vechan".  So in that era, it must have been a locality.  But I cannot pinpoint it.

Do I just have to assume that it is a locality near Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain, or someone with local knowledge might know more ?

John Parry gets married in Oswestry in 1753, and what was probably typical of the time, wanders back and forth between Oswestry and Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain.  After his marriage, his abode was Gronwen, near Sweeney, near Oswestry.

Obviously those communities (Gronwen / Sweeney) were larger in those times due to the mining activity - to support a "Taylor" and his family.
In 1757, he is living "at the widow Smith at Morda House" - which must also be in the Sweeney area.

As the first PARRY in my tree to be actually born in Montgomeryshire, I thought it would be nice to know a little more as to his origins.

Any clues ?

Thanks and regards : Lindsay

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My Great Grandfather RICHARD PARRY died in Great Yarmouth on 31 July 1881 - at the home of his Brother-In-Law, Robert W Main - Apollo Walk.

He was visiting Yarmouth at the time - with his wife and son.

His date of birth : 1821 in Wrexham, Wales.  He was a cabinet maker and in 1881 his address was 5 St Georges Road, St Pancras, London.

I now find that LDS has a date for a burial of a Richard Parry at Yarmouth on 5 August 1881.  The film number 1526490 covers 3 churches : Church of England. St. Nicholas' Church (Yarmouth), Church of England. St. Peter's Church (Yarmouth), Church of England. St. Andrew's Church (Yarmouth).

I would really appreciate any lookup assistance to identify the burial location + anything else that might come up in that lookup.
I have the GRO death cert  if that is of any assistance.

Thanks and regards.     Lindsay / Adelaide. South Australia.


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Denbighshire Lookup Requests / *COMPLETED* WREXHAM Parish Records : PARRY
« on: Monday 01 March 10 05:28 GMT (UK)  »
Re: Richard Parry.  Looking for his birth details and also for his parents details - from Wrexham.
His occupation is always described as Cabinet Maker / Journeyman.

The facts:

1881 : Richard Parry died 31 July and the death certificate gives his age as 60 years.  ie DOB 1821.

1881 : Census.  Has age as 59 years, ie DOB 1822.  Place of birth : North Wales

1871 : Census.  Has age as 49 years, ie DOB 1822.  Place of birth : Wrexham, Wales

1861 : Census.  Has age as 39 years, ie DOB 1822.  Place of birth : Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales

1851 : Census.  Has age as 28 years. ie DOB 1823.  Place of birth : Chester, Cheshire

1851 : Marriage.  Father's name : Samuel Parry / Cabinet Maker

1858 : Marriage.  Father's name : Samuel Parry / Cabinet Maker

Guesswork:

1841 : Census.  A Chester entry for Trinity Street has 3 people:

Margaret Parry - Age 45 years (1796) - place of birth "Y" (Chester).  Possibly a Guilder
Richard Parry - Age 25 years (1816) - place of birth "Y" (Chester).  Cabinet Maker
Samuel Parry - Age 15 years (1826) - place of birth "Y" (Chester).  Guilder

1851 : Census.  A Chester entry for Trinity Street has 2 people:

Samuel Parry - Age 55 (1796) - place of birth : Salop, Ellesmere.  Married - Head and Joiner (Journeyman)
Margaret Parry - Age 56 (1795) - place of birth : Denbigh, Wrexham.  Married - Wife

There is a Cheshire Parish Register Project entry for a marriage : Samuel Parry & Margaret Jones.  2 July 1820.
Witnesses : John Parry and Margaret Parry.  (John Parry also gets married at the same church on the same day).
St John The Baptist Church - Chester

I have used the 1841 Census + the Cheshire marriage of 1820 to make a guess that the parents of Richard are Samuel Parry and Margaret Jones.

Also, IGI has an un-sourced entry:

Samuel Parry (abt 1797) and Margaret (abt 1799), Married abt 1818.  Both of Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales.

Children:

Richard Parry, christening 17 Jun 1821, Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
Maria Parry, christening 9 Feb 1820, Wrexham, Denbigshire, Wales
Samuel Parry, christening 1 Sep 1821, Brymbo, Denbigshire, Wales

Anyone able to confirm a Wrexham birth for a Richard Parry - with father Samuel - abt 1821 ?  Is IGI correct having sighted a Wrexham Parish record ?

Thanks and regards,
Lindsay / Australia.



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