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Derbyshire / Thomas GELL (bn 1594) - What was his wife Elizabeth's maiden name
« on: Saturday 27 April 19 20:54 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

Does anyone know the maiden name of the wife of Thomas GELL (born 1594)? He belonged to the GELL family from the Hopton, Carsington and Wirksworth area.
His elder brother became Sir John GELL, the 1st Baronet.

The wife of 'this' Thomas was possibly called Elizabeth, and they had a number of children, the second of whom was Mary GELL (born 1615). I can only 'estimate' a marriage somewhere around 1613 but I really am not sure about that. They did marry young in those days didn't they! Mary GELL apparently married a Thomas NADIN in 1639. Mary and Thomas would be my 9x Great Grandparents.

Apparently Thomas Gell's wife was likely called Elizabeth, I cannot however find any reliable indication of Mary's mother's maiden name anywhere. Are there any GELL researchers out there who might be able to help?

Yours hopefully,

Alan

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World War Two / Charles Vincent COOK - What does AFW 3149 refer to?
« on: Friday 05 October 18 20:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

My friend is trying to locate what Army records he can for his father, namely one Charles Vincent COOK (1911-1994). The aforesaid Charles Vincent COOK was born in Mold, Flintshire, North Wales, on 6th February 1911. I know that to get the available service records my friend will have to apply himself and pay the statutory £30.

That being said, he does not know the Regiment in which his father served, or indeed his regimental number. Nor does he know where his father served. In fact, he has precious little information apart from his father's name, birth date and the name of his wife.

I just wondered whether the following number may suggest something (AFW 3149), it is the only thing that my friend has, apart from a photograph of his father whilst on active service. His father is in shorts, which may suggest his area of service was somewhere very hot, maybe Africa??

Any thoughts,

Alan

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Derbyshire / Looking for information on George BEERS of Sawley
« on: Friday 28 September 18 11:02 BST (UK)  »
Dear All,

I am trying to help a friend by building up the beginnings of a Family Tree for her. Her mother's maiden name was Beatrice BEERS. Beatrice's father, George BEERS (bn. 1873) had seemingly moved to Nottinghamshire, presumably to work in the coal mines around Jacksdale, the family settled in an area known as Westwood.

However, George BEERS was born in Sawley, Derbyshire in 1873. His father (another George BEERS) was born somewhere between 1832-1834. Where I am stuck is trying to find information relating to Beatrice's 1x Great Grandfather (yet another George BEERS). At the moment, although I suspect he may have been born in SAWLEY, I have no date for his birth, or indeed any other information about him. I have not been able to find the name of his wife, or locate any marriage information.

What I have thus far is:

Beatrice BEERS - 1916-1997 = Frank HANSON bn. Basford RD 1915
     |
George BEERS - bn. Sawley 1873 = Sarah ALDRED - bn. Ilkeston 1873
     |
George BEERS - bn. Sawley 1832 (or 1834) = Mary KIRK - bn. Strelley, Notts 1835
     |
George BEERS ?? = ??

My friend only knows family information from the Nottinghamshire section of the family. She didn't even know that there was a connection in Sawley, Derbyshire.

Are there any other BEERS researchers out there, or indeed any other kind soul who may be able to throw any light on the currently unknown information concerning the third George BEERS and who he married and where?

Yours in hope...,

Alan

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Hi,

I'm back sooner than I thought and am now on the track of CHARLES COLIN CHARLESWORTH. He was once again born in Bonsall, Derbyshire but moved when he and his wife married. Amongst the things I have already found out about him is the following (found on the WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920)

Charles Colin Charlesworth UK,

Rank   Private

Regiment or Corps   London Regiment

Regimental Number   612235

Sub Unit   19th (County of London) Battalion (St. Pancras)

London Regiment
Piece 1939: 19th London Regiment (St Pancras Rifles)

Another document (see attached) states that he apparently served in two theatres of war and gives a number 5910 as well as 612235.

Comments in a file on Ancestry ('Soldiers who died in the Great War) inform me that he was in the King's Royal Rifle Corps and that his number was R/18193. The same file also give reference no's to two sets of London Regiment War Diaries, helpfully it also gives the following references which presumably clarify the two Theatres of War issue in which he was involved:

War Diaries (France, Belgium, Germany) - London Regiment P166S783
War Diaries (Gallipoli) -  London Regiment P166S783
   
The Effects Register says that he died at a hospital in France from the wounds he received (Gas I believe). Apparently the date of his death was 8/12/1917. He is buried at the Etaples Military Cemetery at Departement du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.

I'm sorry for the long preamble but although I have found the links to the two sets of War Diaries for the London Regiment I'm struggling to find the sections that would hopefully clarify which parts might explain why Charles Colin Charlesworth might have been sent from Gallipoli to an area on the Western Front and especially where he might have come under a gas attack, from which, as I understand it, he subsequently died in the Military hospital. Anyone any ideas which numbers I might put in the War Diaries Keyword search box?

Regards,

Alan















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Hello,

I know that Private George Bateman (Service No. 15141) died on the 12th November 1914. I understand that he was at Ypres but would be interested to learn what particularly localised engagements around that time his Regiment (1st Battalion Grenadier Guards) would have fought in. Like many, many more he died following the wounds he received.

He is buried in the small Railway Chateau Cemetery, Vlamertinghe, which according to the information I have seen is about 2 Km west of Ieper town centre.

Yours Hopefully,

Alan S. Flint




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Nottinghamshire / FLYNT Lands & Tenements in Car-Colston (Will - 1623)
« on: Saturday 16 June 18 11:38 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I am from just over the border in Derbyshire and live in Crich, near Matlock. I am trying to research a family called FLYNT / FLINT who apparently had several members who were born in Matlock in the 1500's/1600's. Several of whom left for America around 1635, settling in the Massachusett's Bay Colony. I suspect that two of the brothers who left for Massachusett's Bay, Henry FLYNT & Thomas FLYNT were puritans and I do know that Henry eventually became a minister of a church in Braintree, MA.

One piece of evidence that I have seen suggests that they took with them a considerable amount of money, somewhere between £2,000 and £4,000. This would have been a considerable sum in 1635.

In trying to find out a little more about the family I came across an extract from a Will dated around 1623. The Will was of Thomas FLYNT, the father of the two brothers. I have attached a file with the will extract. It shows something quite interesting that stimulated me to post this on the Nottinghamshire Board. In particular, a reference to the 'lands and tenements' in a place called Car Colston. Does anyone have knowledge of the FLYNT family in Car Colston and why a family in Matlock, Derbyshire would own land in Car Colston?

Yours hopefully,

Alan (Flint)


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Offaly (Kings) / Looking for Rose COOKE, who married Bernard CLAVIN
« on: Monday 08 January 18 07:11 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I hope that you will forgive me, but I am unfamiliar with researching persons with Irish ancestry. I have made some initial progress, but currently, I am looking for information on a Rose COOKE, who married Bernard CLAVIN in 1908.

I have them on the 1911 Census, when they were living in the small rural community of Baleek, in the Parish of Durrow, which was in Kings County (now County Offaly).

On this census Rose is described as being 33-years-old, and Bernard 40. Whether Rose's age is accurate I do not know, but I guess looking for a birth somewhere between 1878 - 1880 might be reasonable.

If anyone can help with information on her parents, place of birth, actual birth date etc.... I would be enormously grateful.

Bernard & Rose's daughter Mary CLAVIN (born 1911) later trained as a nurse and went to London, England, where she met and married Stanley Frederick NUTKINS. Apparently, at the time of their meeting, Stanley was in Whittington Hospital, suffering from pneumonia.

Yours hopefully,

Alan 

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London and Middlesex / Are There any Online Records for the Marylebone Workhouse?
« on: Friday 01 December 17 20:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

Is anyone aware whether there are any online records concerning the Marylebone Workhouse particularly covering the year 1881? I ask because I am trying to locate what happened to a then 19-year-old girl, who, in 1881, had been a servant in a 'Lodging House' at nearby 43 Manchester Street. She had been entered on the Census under the name of Lizzie CODLING. That may well have been the name by which she was known, but her actual 'Given' name was Elizabeth.

I am making this enquiry on behalf of a friend, whose family had been focussed around the Marylebone area, certainly since the early 1800’s. In particular, they were inquisitive about the origins of my friend’s Great Grandfather, who had become somewhat of a mystery. It would now appear he was born in the Marylebone Workhouse, on the 2nd November 1881. Louis BENOIT, the Head of House at 43 Manchester Street, had been born in France in 1822, and at 59-years-old was some 40 years older than his servant Lizzie CODLING. It was he who appears to have fathered Lizzie's illegitimate son. I do not know when the 59-year-old Louis BENOIT came to England.

I also have seen on an old map that the Marylebone Workhouse, where Lizzie Codling’s illegitimate son ‘Louis’ was born, was quite close to Manchester Street so she would not have had far to go when she presumably was ‘asked’ to leave the Benoit household.

It is apparent that she had transitioned across to 15 Victoria Place when she registered the birth on the 11th November 1881, but then she disappears, presently I can’t find her anywhere. Victoria Place no longer exists, but I understand that "Victoria Place was renamed as a new part of Fisherton Street in 1914 (the N.W. leg) and was extended during redevelopment to join what is now Lyons Place".

If there are any online records for the Marylebone Workhouse, I am hoping that they may be able to tell me when Lizzie [Elizabeth] CODLING was admitted there, as well as when she left. I don't for a moment expect them to record where she went. The 1881 Census states that she had been born in Suffolk.

Yours hopefully,

Alan

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The Common Room / Anyone know what the word Bibboth means or signifies?
« on: Saturday 25 November 17 13:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all,

The editor of our local community magazine and webmaster of our parish history website says "I am transcribing a fascinating long document about the history of St Mary’s Church, Crich, and the impact of what was happening in the wider world upon our church and its community.

I am adding “notes” to explain some of the more archaic terms occasionally used. However, the following sentence has me stumped –

"In about 1230 this Ralph son of Simon of Wessington gave and conceded to the Abbey his ‘Native’, Thurston Bibboth with all his family. Later he gave them another of his ‘Natives’."

(The Ralph was squire of Crich, the Abbey referred to Darley Abbey and at the time Wessington was part of Crich Parish)"

A few ideas have been put forward, but I wondered whether anyone on this board might have heard of the word Bibboth before, and have an idea of its meaning or significance.

Regards,

Alan

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