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Would appreciate a second opinion on the mother of Thomas Foster born Selby 1825.  His baptism record at Selby Abbey shows his mother as "Ann" (unmarried)  On his marriage certificate which I ordered years and years ago his father was "blank" (which I expected).  I had never been able to trace a suitable candidate for Ann in terms, of marriages or deaths, and so accepted (sort of) that was the end of the line.

However, I recently looked  at the marriage as recorded in the Parish Record and a surprising snippet came to light. The vicar has put both parents for Isabella Silversides (who Thomas married) and against Thomas's name, father blank but mother "Nancy Pilkerton".  I had always assumed that Nancy Foster who married Joseph Pilkington was his aunt.  I know  that "Nancy" is a derivative of "Ann", but....

James Foster and Mary Rayner (Thomas's grandparents and who he was with in Selby in 1841) had the following children all baptised Brayton:

John 1790, Elizabeth 1791, William 1793, ANN 1795, Nancy 1802.  I've only ever been able to trace William and Nancy.  Dade records confirm they are all of the same family. 

My conundrum - is Nancy the mother of Thomas and when she baptised him she was calling herself Ann (although she married as Nancy)  Did Thomas just say "Nancy" so that both his parents were not left blank on the certificate?

Thomas went on to name his 10 children:  James, Mary, Ann, Rayner, Thomas, William, Jane, Guy, John and Isabella. 

Any thoughts/suggestions welcome.

Goughy


 

Could anyone help with the marriage of John Ramskar (variants: Ramsker, Ramscar, Ramscarr) with Charlotte Smith, please.   The marriage was possibly in the Sheffield area. 

I know Charlotte's maiden name from the birth certificate of their youngest daughter Emma born in 1839. 

I have full information relating to John and Charlotte and their family,  but it is their marriage that has eluded me for many years.  According to census records Charlotte was born in Hull.

Their eldest child, Elizabeth Harriet was baptised in Sheffield Cathedral 27 January 1822.  I'm guessing John and Charlotte married around 1821.

Many thanks

Goughy

Would appreciate any suggestions on how to find the above couple after 1881.    The story so far.  My great x2 aunt Jane was born in Riccall in 1827 (parish register) and Thomas in Ripon (various ages on census).  In 1841 Jane was a servant in Wistow.  In 1851 she is living with Thomas Pickersgill (carpenter) 79 Ebenezer Place, York.  I found the couple through searching for Jane’s brother William Silversides who is, fortunately, staying with her.  In 1861, Jane and Thomas are living at Albert Street, York (Jane’s nephew Mark Saltmarsh is living with them).  In 1871 and 1881, they are living 10 St Clements Terrace, York (Jane’s niece Jane Slater is staying in 1871).  In 1881 it was strange  that Thomas changed his occupation to Retired Tanner.

I had never been able to find a marriage for Jane and Thomas, however several newspaper articles in July 1881 “revealed all”.  Thomas was in court for desertion of his wife in 1844 (she  lived in Bradford)  From the articles, there is reference to a woman who he had lived with who called herself “Mrs Pickersgill”, i.e. my Jane Silversides.  The newspapers reported that Thomas was fairly well-off, owning his property, several cottages in Dale Street which he rented out, property in Driffield and had recently sold two houses to York Corporation for £600. 

Without purchasing loads of random death certificates, my efforts to find them, particularly Jane,  since 1881 have gone cold.  I had hoped the Will route may lead to Thomas, alas I can’t see anything on Will Calendar I think would be him, having spent hours cross-referencing addresses etc.  I have on my list to visit Wakefield Archives (who say they hold the Police Court records of 1881) to see if anything comes up in those as he had to pay his wife a weekly allowance).

Just wondered if going down the “property route” would lead to anything???  Any suggestions gratefully received.   

Goughy

I would be most grateful for any help on any information relating to Frank and Emma (nee Ramsker) Stones. 

They married in Sheffield, England 12 July 1863, Francis was a Silver chaser at time of marriage) and had emigrated by the 1871 England Census. (possibly 1868).

Possible 1870 Census
Attleborough, Massachusetts
Stones, Frank K 31  silver chaser England
ditto, Emma 31 Keeping House England
ditto, Charles A 2 no occupation Rhode Island
Richardson, Emma 41 Burnishing Silver England


I have found them in the 1880 Census:

1880
New Bedford, Bristol, Massachusetts
Stones, Frank 41 die sinker Eng Eng Eng
ditto Emma 41 wife keeping house Eng Eng Eng
ditto Clara 12 dau RI Eng Eng
ditto Amy 9 dau NY Eng Eng
ditto Madeline 7 dau RI Eng Eng

I have also found a birth for another daughter, Mabel S Stones born 02 Aug 1880 New Bedford, Bristol, Massachusetts (father Frank Stones (Die Sinker) Mother Emma Ramsker)

I have found a marriage for Bel C Stone (assume this is Mabel) (parents Francis N Stone and Emma Ramsker) to an Edgar E Chittendon 17 November 1905 in Sunderland Massachusetts. 

I have not been able to trace any further details of any of this family since the 1880 census.  If anyone is able to help with this brickwall relating to the marriages of the daughters, other census, or deaths,  it would be greatly appreciated. 

Many thanks in advance

Goughy