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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Early 1900s, Melbourne Aust Interpretation
« on: Friday 12 January 24 03:46 GMT (UK)  »
This photo seems to be early 1900s, maybe 1910-1930?, Melbourne, Australia.
The name I was given was "Miss Yates".  I can't quite work out the meaning of the handwritten text at the bottom.  Can anyone clarify what they think it means? I would also like to better date the photo.
No further information about the photographer, unfortunately.
Thanks for your time folks.
Dave

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Leicester UK or Melbourne Australia. William Yates and Charlotte (nee Lakin)
« on: Saturday 31 December 22 04:38 GMT (UK)  »
This is copy of a photo of the couple who were married in Leicester in August 1875. Do the clothes fit that period? Roughly hat year were the photos taken and any idea where?  It looks as if these were individual photos pasted into a document, but there is no text to go with the pics and I don't have the original.

Any comments welcome.

Thanks folks,

Dave

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Australia / Gibbard in Daylesford, Melbourne, Collingwood. Box, Stott in Melbourne.
« on: Saturday 31 December 22 03:57 GMT (UK)  »
Folks,
I'm wondering whether there's anyone out there interested in the family and descendants of Charles William Frederick Gibbard (b 1861, Daylesford), his wife Julia (nee Box) and their daughter Gertrude (who married Hubert Stott).

I have a formal photo of this family when Gertrude (b 1869) must have been about 18 months old (about 1870/1871). I'm happy to share it with anyone interested.

Dave

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / William Yates b1851 Liecester, died 1898 Melbourne (Aust)
« on: Monday 22 November 21 03:53 GMT (UK)  »
I've just amazingly come on the photo below. I'm very sure it is William Yates, b Leicester 1851.
I want to date the photo if possible please. My guessing is that the photo was taken about 1890 (in Fitzroy, Victoria, Australia).  His hair and beard do not appear to be greying and he looks about 40 to me. Any comments much appreciated! 

Thanks you experts out there!

David

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Leicestershire / Bootmakers in Leicester, mid - late 1800s
« on: Monday 15 November 21 06:09 GMT (UK)  »
I realise this is a bit of an ask.
I have a number of people in my family tree who were in one way or other engaged in the boot making industry in Leicester. A couple of them left Leicester for Australia in 1875 and in 1881.
Is there any possible source that might help find WHO these folk worked for? Any employer records?
I have looked unsuccessfully to date but may well be missing something.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Help with information re photos: Yates, Lakin
« on: Monday 15 November 21 05:59 GMT (UK)  »
Folks,
I am puzzling over a photograph (several, but they’re for later!).

Photo 1 is of a young couple, taken in Leicester. This is from a family source and the handwritten name on the photograph was William Yates. This was written by an elderly member of his bride’s family (Charlotte’s family) here in Australia in more recent years. I have some cause to question the name..
William Yates (b1851) married Charlotte Lakin (b1856) in Leicester on August 14 1875.  At the time of their marriage, William was 24 and Charlotte 19 years of age. Twelve days later they sailed to Australia.
My question here is “IS this William and Charlotte?” Does the nature of the photograph or their stance and clothing suggest anything about them?  Neither is wearing a wedding ring. Does anyone know the years in which this photographer operated? What is the estimate of the age of each of these two?
It IS conceivable that these two are brother and sister? Do they look related? Do their nose shapes look similar? William did have sisters who remained in Leicester (Mary Anne (b1849), Caroline (b1854) and Emma Jane (b1859). 
Photo 2 and Photo 3 are definitely Charlotte Yates (nee Lakin) taken many years later in Melbourne, Australia. The ear lobes in these two photographs do not appear to be the same as in Photo 1.  This has led me to doubt that Photo 1 IS actually William and Charlotte.
It IS still possible there are much later photographs of one of William’s brothers and nephews in family records. William and Charlotte did not have any children. There are no later, definite photographs of William (who died in1898).
I would appreciate hearing any suggestions folks may have that might help in my quest in identifying the couple in Photo 1. 

Thanks Folks.

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Australia / Wrong ages and profession deliberately given on embarkation for Australia Why?
« on: Friday 22 January 21 04:35 GMT (UK)  »
I'm not sure WHERE to make this post, so here goes!

I have a couple in my family, William and Charlotte Yates, who migrated from England to Australia in 1875 aboard the Great Britain on its last voyage to Melbourne departing August 26, and arriving in Melbourne on 20, October 1875.  William had married Charlotte Lakin on 14 August 1875 in Leicester.
William was born on late 1851 or early 1852 and Charlotte in 1856 in Leicester, England according to Census and other records. So at the time of their marriage, William was 24 and Charlotte 19 years of age. William's occupation was boot and shoe riveter, a profession shared with his grandfather. Charlotte was a worsted spinner. Both thus filled roles in two common occupations in Leicester at the period and there was nothing in the family histories to suggest either had significant financial resources, though they apparently paid their own passage to Australia. For several generations their families had been in similar employment.
When they embarked for Australia on board the Great Britain William and Charlotte gave their ages as 35 and 32 respectively (i.e. 11 and 13 years older than they actually were) and William's occupation as grocer.
 
My questions are two:
why this couple might have given these exaggerated ages and
why William might have claimed to be a grocer. (It appears that in later years the family knew how old William was – certainly they did before he died in 1898, but it was only on her death in 1939 that family came to realise that Charlotte was 13 years younger than she claimed!)
Within 2-4 years of arriving in Australia William had been in partnership in at least two Boot and Shoe manufacturing businesses and shortly thereafter built a large factory for his own business in the northern suburbs of Melbourne.  (The factory still exists, is National Trust Listed and is apparently the only remaining factory of its type in Melbourne.)  The boot and shoe industry in Melbourne was growing very rapidly at the time and the positions advertised available were numerous. One might have thought it would be of advantage to claim a trade useful in the industry in Australia.
I'd be interested in any comments on my questions.

Thanks folks!

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Australia / Help locating a copy of Australian Newspaper, the "Grenfell Record" 16 Nov 1886
« on: Tuesday 24 April 18 12:57 BST (UK)  »
I raised a similar question elsewhere on RootsChat some time ago, and elsewhere, all to no avail. This is a last try.
I am doing some research for something I have been asked to write about a party of Grenfell, NSW, Australia inhabitants who in 1886 journeyed to Wyndham (WA) and then overland to Halls Creek area seeking gold. I have come against a problem using Trove, the excellent repository of so much Antipodean material. I have a problem with the image of a particular paper, the "Grenfell Record" dated 16/10/1886 (This paper is sometimes Catalogued as the Grenfell Record and Lachlan Advertiser.). Part of page 2, a letter, is missing in the Australian online source (see below). It seems that the only extant copy of this paper in Australia is the one from which the microfilm was taken! (In the image, it seems as though a piece (about 75 lines) was cut from it and about the top half of the first column is missing. It is clear from looking at the page 1 of microfilm of this edition that it was an item on page 1 that was removed prior to microfilming. See:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/117578478
I have contacted the National Library of Australia who record and archive such items but they have no original paper. The State Library of New South Wales does have a copy of the paper but it appears to be the one from which the microfilm was produced! – that is, the section I need is missing. It seems I have drawn a blank.
I have searched widely, looking for other papers that might have carried the letter in question, but to no avail.
Is anyone aware of possible locations of other collections of the Grenfell Record – in Australia or elsewhere? Believe me when I say I have looked. I know the Grenfell Historical Museum well, and they are unable to help. I have drawn a blank so far.
Any further suggestions/ideas would be most welcome.
Thanks in advance. :D

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Australia / Enquire re a newspaper reference. Adelaide 1851
« on: Monday 20 June 16 09:40 BST (UK)  »
Folks
I am not sure this enquiry belongs in Rootschat, but I’ll try anyway. A direct ancestor of mine was John Argles Robinson. He came from the Westminster district of London to Adelaide with his young wife Sarah.  He drowned in the Yarra, Melbourne, on the way to the Victorian goldfields in December 1851 leaving Sarah and a baby in Adelaide. I believe I have just found him in Adelaide, and am wondering what information I might gain from the two following links to Adelaide newspapers.

Do these tell me that he owned land/a house in Angas St, Adelaide? What else do they tell me? What does “acre 411” mean?

John Argles Robinson may be found in these two places:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/207006413?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/165043277?

I’d appreciate any comment/suggestion about what this information might mean, please.

Thanks in advance

DY



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