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Australia / Re: Philip A Smith of Rockingham, Western Australia
« on: Wednesday 30 September 20 08:10 BST (UK)  »
He does not appear to be on the Welcome Wall. This is probably because he did not put it on there or no one of his family did. Voluntary.

It could also mean he came by plane.

The Welcome Wall is on Fremantle Harbour and lists those who came to WA by ship.

Our family put us on the Welcome Wall for our 50th Wedding Anniversary.

The Common Room / Re: Ancestry has been sold to Blackstone
« on: Saturday 08 August 20 03:21 BST (UK)  »
Exactly Chiddicks. Money always looks for opportunities and exploits them. It can be good, it can be bad, we will have to watch this one.

The Common Room / Re: Ancestry has been sold to Blackstone
« on: Friday 07 August 20 02:28 BST (UK)  »
I strongly suspect the DNA changes were made at the request of Blackstones. It was an efficiency move.They invest in medical companies etc and are far more interested in Ancestry's DNA bank than the family history side. Probably the biggest databank with popular access. There are fore's and against's on that one.

The future of DNA is in the medical side, there are millions to be made there. Some applications will be excellent and our descendants will be glad of them. Others can be controlling as is always the case with new discoveries. We may have to watch our privacy even more closely, it is in danger.

One thing can be certain investments companies are looking for the money, that is why they are in business. They will be interested in the content only so far as their business model dictates. The business model would make sure that Ancestry stays as popular as it is today or even more so, to increase the database.

They might give it a facelift to take on Find My Past far more logical systems. At the moment dear old Ancestry still retains its original - it just grew based on the old family search. For many of us will remember that the LDS was all we had to start with on the net. Ancestry was the answer to that. Find My Past came in as 1837 online and it was a far logical, going through phases until we have the website we have today - an ordered one. We all knew what we wanted and they provided it.

Would hate to lose Ancestry as it is today, drives me mad sometimes, but one can find such gems if one persists and sometimes quite accidentally when looking for something else. Reminds me of the old village shop where I grew up, everything was such a muddle with boxes into the customer space, but the owners knew where everything was. It was such a joy as a child to see something very tasty appear!!! Was rationing then of course. Sorry for the memory jog, not on topic really.

The Common Room / Re: Ancestry has been sold to Blackstone
« on: Thursday 06 August 20 01:08 BST (UK)  »
Blackstones are a personalised medical company according to Reuters. They will be interested in the DNA side of Ancestry. For an against on that one.

The Common Room / Re: Edith Mary Howell
« on: Tuesday 04 August 20 02:00 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Rosie99. Great find. Strange error to make, it was a big family for about three generations there. Perhaps a new Vicar, or a new Parish Clerk, though would have expected a Parish Clerk to know the family, it was not a big place.

Edith was the last of William and Betsey's family to be baptised there before the family moved to Kings Somborne where the rest of the family were born. Netheravon was changing, the Army moved in to make it part of the Salisbury Plain Army properties. Perhaps that was the reason, it was a time of confusion there with people having to move out because the Army took where they were living or the Army coming meant their jobs were gone. The Army did not completely take it over until about 1904 but the place was finally sold to them in 1898 by Sir Michael Hicks Beach who was Chancellor of the Exchequer at the time. There was a lot of changes in the village before that finally happened as well.

The Common Room / Re: Edith Mary Howell
« on: Monday 03 August 20 02:03 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, Rosie99, that was a brilliant find. Yes, that is the one. Hall, Howell, they can sound the same if the Minister did not know them. Must have been a new Minister, or once again a transcriber error. Those transcribers have done such brilliant work, some handwriting is impossible!!

The Common Room / Re: Edith Mary Howell
« on: Sunday 02 August 20 10:42 BST (UK)  »
As far as I can see there is no record of either Edith or Ethel on passenger lists. Unless of course they got married before they went. There is an Edith Howell travelling backwards and forwards to America but she is a Lancashire lass.

Yes I saw the Vyse marriage and it all seemed right until you realise that the marriage was in Lowestoft in Suffolk, Ethel was born in Wiltshire, lived in Hampshire and worked in London. Yes Dad was a dairyman and that would be correct and his name was William, but the place bothered me. In 1930 she is a widow living in Norwich and yes dates fit.

Have just been back to the records ie 1911 census, Google and a Heritage Family tree which gives Ethel's employer's tree. Now that was interesting, there is a connection with North Runcton in Norfolk. It seems to be part of a famous naval family. So they may have had or inherited a property in Norfolk and moved back there taking Ethel with them. That makes more sense. Thank you.

I decided to look at the trees for Edith, but no one has the answer either - all unknown spouse.

The Common Room / Re: Edith Mary Howell
« on: Sunday 02 August 20 07:22 BST (UK)  »
No I did not find her there. However I will take this further. She had an older sister also working in London I can find little about. Now I am wondering if they emigrated together.

The older sister was Ethel Sarah Howell, born in 1888 in Netheravon in Wiltshire. She was baptised there on 21 Mar 1888. Another one perhaps born the year before, but that did not help. In 1911 she was a cook in Gloucester Gardens in Paddington West. Then the trail runs cold there too.

The Common Room / Re: Edith Mary Howell
« on: Sunday 02 August 20 04:21 BST (UK)  »
Thank you both, your help is very much appreciated.

Yes I see that is blurred, hard to read so the transcriber had a problem, thank you.

Yes she could have been born the year before and even baptised with her younger brother if her parents were rushing around trying to move. There were seven older children, although the older ones could have helped. I could not find her in either place.

I tried the 1939 register but it was very inconclusive. Thought I had her, but investigations proved otherwise. The trouble is there are so many Edith Mary or Edith M Howell's in the country! Was a popular name.

Emigration I thought of and actually I did find that one, although it did not feel right. Since you found it too I now am still wondering. There were a lot of domestic servants emigrating at that time. I wonder if I can find her in Quebec.

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