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Dumfriesshire / Re: Locharbriggs
« on: Sunday 31 January 10 01:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Little Prince,

I did check the OPRs at Scotlands People and Janet Clark appears in the register on 30 Sep 1830.   She is listed as the daughter of Joseph clark and Rosannah Burns.  So the 1837 date listed below is wrong. 

Martha Parker

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Locharbriggs
« on: Saturday 09 January 10 21:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Little Prince,

Thank  you very much for your message.

I have two conflicting dates in my records.  I have a date listed for the birth of Janet Clark dated 20 Aug 1831 to Joseph Clark and Rosanna Burns.  I also have a date for 1837.  The Joseph who was the son of Gilbert Clark and Jane Wilson died in 1835. 
Do you know when the Janet Clark McClure died in your family?    Does her death record give her parent's name?  I don't think this could be my g.g. grandmother Janet Clark because the Janet I am looking for, born in 1834, was married to Thomas McBride and not John McClure.  However I do think that your Joseph Clark may be part of the same family.  If he died in 1835 he could be the son of Gilbert Clark and Grace Wilson.  Do you know when Joseph died?
 I see from my records that I got the date of birth for Janet, the daughter of Joseph Clark and Rosanna, from a film and I shall order that again to make sure of the dates and I will let you know.  I have recorded the baptism of Janet Clark (d. of Joseph and Rosanna) as 20 Sep 1831.  If I find anything further I will let you know and I would appreciate anything you have on the McCLures that will sort this family out.  Thanks. Martha Parker

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Locharbriggs
« on: Friday 08 January 10 02:18 GMT (UK)  »
Gadget,
One more thing I just discovered tonight:
Thomas Clark (1820-)  m. 1 Jun 1860  Jane Dugan St Andrew, Edinburgh, Midlothian Scotland.  He was 36 and he was 40.  His parents were listed as Gilbert Clark and Grace Wilson.  I have been unable to find John Clark and I still don't have a baptism for Janet Clark born 1834 but I am certain they all belong to the same family.  Thanks.

Martha Parker

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Locharbriggs
« on: Thursday 07 January 10 23:40 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Gadget,

There it was staring me in the eye.  Yes, indeed, I think that the Isabella  living with Thomas and Janet in the 1841 census was the daughter of the Isabella who died in childbirth.  I just can't thank you enough for pointing me in the right direction.  And to top it off I found the baptism of Janet Clerk (sic) 28 Mar 1814 to Gilbert Clark and Grizzle Wilson.  So I think the family looks like this:
Gilbert Clark (1769-18 Dec 1827) Kirkton, Dumfries  md  28 Mar 1814 Grace Wilson (1775-10 Sep 1832) d. Kirkton Dumfries Kirkmahoe Churchyard.  Her name also spelled Grizzel and Grizzle)
  1. James Clark (1796-8 May 1869) m. Mary Bell
  2. John Clark (1800-15 June 1808) d. Dumfries
  3. Joseph Clark (1805-1835)  Kirkton
  4. Jane Clark (1809-aft 1861) m. John Dinwiddie   
  5. Janet Clerk (sic) (28 Mar 1814-) She was listed as Jean in the 1841
      census
  6. Isabella Clark (1816-1836)  Kirkton
  7. William Clark  (1820-1858) Kirkmahoe MI
  8. Thomas Clark (1823-)  I am guessing he belongs here.

Now that leaves Janet Clark age 7 who was in the 1841 census.  She could be the daughter of any of the sons or daughters but my guess is that she is the daughter of Jean/Janet.

I am rejoining the DGFHS and will also send for the Kirkmahoe booklet as it might have something else on the family.  Thanks so very much.  This is a great site and everyone has been so helpful.  I think I am on the right track.  I have been researching this family for a very long time and finally a breakthough.  Gadget I am very grateful.

Martha Parker


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Dumfriesshire / Re: Locharbriggs
« on: Thursday 07 January 10 02:19 GMT (UK)  »
One other item I just uncovered Gadget.  Jane Clark was the wife of John Dinwiddie.  I found their son William's baptism and it listed Jane maiden name.  Martha Parker

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Locharbriggs
« on: Thursday 07 January 10 01:20 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Gadget,

Here is part of the information from the Kirkmahoe MI:

#573 is about James Clark and his wife Mary Bell
#574 At the foot of #573. IHO John Clark son to Gilbirt (sic) Clark in Locherbridge wd 15/6/1808 aged 8.  Also above Gilbirt Clark wd 18/12/1827 aged 58.  Also Grace Wilson his spouse wd 10/9/1832 aged 57.  Joseph their son wd 1835 aged 30.  Isabella their dr wd 1836 aged 20.  William their son wd at Locherbridge Dec 1858 aged 38.

Of course they are not talking about the Isabella that was listed with Thomas, Jean and Janet Clark  That Isabella was born ca1836.  I wish I could connect the two families.

I have the death record of the above William Clark who died 1858.  His b-i-l signed the certificate.  It looked like Dunwoodie and I think I have found this family in the 1851-1871 census.  If it is the correct family the wife would have been Jane Clark but I don't know if I have the right family.  The Jane listed on the census was born in Locharbriggs as were her children but I don't know if her surname was Clark.

I also have the death record of James Clark who was married to Mary Bell.  It does state that his father was Gilbert Clark.

Do you know where I can get the rest of the MIs for Kirkmahoe Parish?  I want to see if the Dunwoodie/Dinwiddie family is listed there. 

If you want to take a look at #573 of the MI just let me know.  I didn't include it because I wasn't sure if anyone was interested.

Again, thank you.   

Martha Parker




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Dumfriesshire / Re: Locharbriggs
« on: Wednesday 06 January 10 23:03 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Wul,
Here are the Clarks who were in Locharbriggs 1800-1841.

Gilbert Clark (1769-1827)   md  Grace Wilson (1775-1832) He was a mason
1. John Clark (1800-1808)
2. Joseph Clark (1805-1835)
3. Isabella Clark (1816-1836) 
4. William Clark (1820-1858)  Have his death  record
There was also a daughter who married John Dunwoodie.

1841 Census of Scotland Locharbriggs  Parish:  ED: 4A; Page:  6; Line: 1305
Clark, James (45)  mason (1796 -8 May 1869)  Have his death record.
                           He is the son of Gilbert Clark (above)
Clark, Mary  (46)  This is Mary Bell
Clark, Helen (15) 1825-1842  Died at ae 17 Kirkmahoe Memorial
Clark, John   (12)  1829-1886 He is in the Dunfries death index in 1886.
 All were born in Dumfrieshire, Scotland

Now I have to figure out if the family below is related to the family above:
1841 Census of Scotland  Locharbriggs  7 June, 1841 
Clark, Thomas  (18)   mason apprentice      
Clark, Jean       (25)                                 
Clark, Janet      (7)                                  
Clark, Isabella   (5)                                   
All born in Dumfrieshire, Scotland

Martha Parker

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Locharbriggs
« on: Wednesday 06 January 10 18:19 GMT (UK)  »
Gadget,

Thanks for your suggestion regarding the Dumfries Family History Society.  I was a member for many years.  I think I am going to concentrate on linking the two Clark families in the 1841 Locharbriggs census.  I will also follow up on Thomas.  You were kind to offer to do this but I don't expect you to do this and I have the time.  Thank you for your offer and thanks for all your help.  Martha Parker

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Locharbriggs
« on: Wednesday 06 January 10 17:54 GMT (UK)  »
Wul, I never thought about copyright issues.  If possible please remove the page and I will type in the the info pertaining to the Clark family.  I am so sorry that I copied this to your site.

Martha Parker

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