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Hey everyone, thanks for all of your input. I guess I may never be able to prove that they are the same person, but having been part of other tintypes my family has passed down I will still preserve it.  Thanks for all the guesses though. The certainly seem to share facial features, I believe.

I wanted to follow up with a full version of the tintype for everyone to see if it helps in any way. Not sure when this is taken but I would assume 1860's-1870's because it's a tintype but I could be wrong.

Thanks again everyone. (had some fun resizing the image, hope this upload's correctly)
 

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Greetings everyone,

I was organizing family photos and I found a tintype photo that I had never seen before. At first I was somewhat disappointed because I have no clue who the subjects in the photograph are. But then I realized that the woman in the center seemed familiar.

The woman on the right I know for a fact is my great-great-great-great-grandmother Sarah H. Allen, because the photo on the right had her name written on the back of it. This forum has always done a fabulous job at restoring and dating photographs so I wondered what everyone thinks. Do you think that this is the same woman, photographed decades apart?

Thank you all in advance for your time and help.

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United States of America / Re: Aunt Mary Clarke of Timlin Family in Philadelphia
« on: Monday 10 December 18 03:31 GMT (UK)  »
You may already have noticed these census entries
Your family in

1861 3373/45/14
Bryan and Cicely with children plus two Conway visitors
John Conway 18 yrs and Honora Conway 16 yrs

Then there is
1851 2320/480/3
Leeds
Michael Timlin 30 yrs
John Timlin 25 yrs
William Timlin 80 yrs
Sarah Timlin 63 yrs
Timothy Conway 36 yrs
Margaret Conway 28 yrs
John Conway 8 yrs
Michael Conway   7 yrs
Honor Conway 5 yrs
James Conway 1 yr

The Conway children have mmn Timlin (variation if spellings) and the Conway/Temlin marriage was 1842

Unfortunately, I can’t see Bernard/Bryan in 1851

This is really amazing heywood. Thank you for finding this and posting it here. This helps expand the Timlin family further in Europe for me. I'm happy to find that my Timlin family appears to be in Leeds at the time of the Irish famine, having left Ireland early I suppose.

I had actually never discovered that 1851 Leeds Census. It's a lot to think about and particularly interesting as you point out because the records have Margaret Timlen and John Conway marrying in 1842 in Leeds. I'll likely order that marriage record as I did Benrard/Bryan and Selina's. I'll have to see if Margaret's father is also listed as William Timlin on her marriage record too. I am certainly beginning to believe that John & Honor(a) Conway have more than a visitor relationship to Bryan/Bernard, because by comparing 1851 and 1861 census I would imagine that Bryan/Bernard is an uncle of John & Honor(a) Conway or some other type of relative.

William Timlin is listed as 80 years old in the 1851 census. If William is the father of Bernard/Bryan cited in his marriage certificate and possibly of Margaret. If so that means that William had them quite late in life, in his late fifties. I'm not ruling out the possibility, but maybe he is another patriarch of the family. This Timlin family seems big, but their living in Leeds gives me a better chance at finding out more information about them.

Thank you all again for everything and all of the information you've provided me. I appreciate the miracles that happen on rootschat. 

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United States of America / Re: Aunt Mary Clarke of Timlin Family in Philadelphia
« on: Friday 07 December 18 07:27 GMT (UK)  »
Great ideas, thank you everyone for the leads.

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United States of America / Re: Aunt Mary Clarke of Timlin Family in Philadelphia
« on: Wednesday 05 December 18 23:33 GMT (UK)  »
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Wonder if 'aunt' died in Phildelphia did her death registration list any parents?

Exactly, Mary only seems to appear in this 1910 census.  A death record would likely unravel that information about parents as you suggest, maybe even city directories. And yes, all the spelling variations are an extra twist, I believe that my ancestors name was Bernard, but since it's such a unique name the records call him Bryan and Bryand in an effort to simplify.

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United States of America / Re: Aunt Mary Clarke of Timlin Family in Philadelphia
« on: Wednesday 05 December 18 23:01 GMT (UK)  »
It sounds like Thomas' parents married in England, correct? Is so, that eliminates looking for the marriage in the Irish parish records.

Is there any evidence that they knew each other in Ireland or that their families were from the same general location? If so, Timlin and Filbin only occur together in Mayo, according to https://www.johngrenham.com/surnamescode/twosurnames.php?surname2=filbin&surname=timlin.

If no evidence to that effect, then no help there.

Are there any siblings for Bernard Timlin or Selina Filbin in Leeds? If so, what do you know about them? Did any of them emigrate to the US, or did their children, etc.?

If you get a few siblings you might take a chance on looking in the Irish parish baptism records for all the names in one place with the same parents. But that isn't really a definite way to find them. Much better to find a location on a non-Irish record before playing hide and seek in the baptism records.

Thank you everyone for your help and assistance!

I actually have Bernard and Selina's marriage record from Leeds in 1854. That is how I know the names of Bernard and Selina's fathers. Basically at this point the marriage record in Leeds between the two of them is the farthest back that I am able to go in the Timlin/Filbin family. I do have the 1861 England and Wales Census of the family they are still living in Leeds, but that is why I thought that US naturalization records would be a good place to go, because the 1900 US Census in Philadelphia says that "Bryand" was a naturalized citizen. I'm not exactly sure what information a naturalization document would provide, but I'm sure it would give me more specific information about Bernard Timblin including possibly the town of his birth and more information about his parents. Although I'm doing a little reading online and I'm not sure what type of genealogy relevant information I'll be able to find, but it's worth a shot.

aghadowey is right, the census documents aren't precise enough to distinguish whether it's the biological aunt of the head of household. It could technically be an aunt in-law, the sister of either Mary's father or mother.

Thanks again to everyone for the help.

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United States of America / Aunt Mary Clarke of Timlin Family in Philadelphia
« on: Wednesday 05 December 18 05:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everyone, it's been quite a while since I've made a post on rootschat, but lately I've been pulled back into my genealogy research and I remember what a great resource and how friendly everyone here is, so I have come back to ask for assistance.

I'm trying to find out more about Mary Clarke, aunt of Thomas Timlin. I haven't been able to get anywhere. She appears in the 1910 US Census in Philadelphia living with her nephew Thomas, his wife Mary, and their 9 children. Being an aunt, she has to be a sibling of either Thomas' mother or father - Bernard/Bryan Tim(b)lin or Selina/Cecelia Filbin. I'm curious to uncover the mystery of which.

Mary, according to the 1910 Census Mary Clarke was 65 years old, born approximately 1845 in Ireland. She is widowed and immigrated to the US in 1870. Bernard/Bryan and Selina/Cecelia lived in Leeds, England before immigrating to America and living in Philadelphia. According to the marriage records Bernard's father was William Timblin, a farmer. Selina's father was Patrick Filbin a laborer.

I'm hoping that finding some information about Mary could help lead me towards the early records and information regarding the families of Bernard and Selina before they were ever married. I'm going to take a guess that Mary is related to the Tim(b)lin family, and that she likely didn't have any children but I could be wrong. If anyone has access to any records or can point me in the right direction I appreciate the help.

I've been thinking about researching naturalization records for members in the Timlin family, does anyone know how I would go about the process of researching naturalization records of Philadelphia residents in the late 1800's?

Thanks again. Glad to be back :)

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United States of America / Re: Searching for My namesake, Jeremiah Devine
« on: Tuesday 17 April 12 18:37 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for this information.

Upon looking at the death certificate, it says that Jeremiah died on June 9, 1893. Which, I would have thought reasonable, yet, the burial records for his cemetery state he was buried in November, 5 months after his death. Strange, isn't it?


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United States of America / Searching for My namesake, Jeremiah Devine
« on: Tuesday 17 April 12 03:53 BST (UK)  »
I never knew, and neither did my parents, or their parents. It just so happened that I am named the same name as my great-great-great-great grandfather Jeremiah Devine.

When I contacted a distant relative, she gave me his name, and the information she knew about him, which was not much. I have been trying and trying to track Jeremiah down and learn as much as I can about him. I was wondering if anyone here may be able to find anything new, as another pair or two of eyes always helps :)

Jeremiah was born in Ireland in about 1843 in Ireland. He came to Nova Scotia and married Mary Harriet Gough. My ancestor, their daughter, Margaret Ann Devine was born January 17, 1865 in Halifax, Nova Scotia. Margaret had a brother John, who is assumed to have been born around 1872, according to a death certificate for John.

Without knowing many of the details inbetween, Jeremiah ended up in Boston, Massachusetts in 1893. According to cemetery records, he is burried at Mt. Benedict Cemetery, West Roxbury, Massachusetts beside his wife Mary. From the cemetery records, he was burried on November 28, 1893. Mary, his wife, died in Boston years later on April 13, 1904.

I do not know much about what happened inbetween his years in Nova Scotia, and his death in Boston years later. I was wondering if any of you experts may be able to find more information, or point me in the direction of how to obtain more information of the man for which I share the same name.

I thank you all for the time you put into research,

Jeremiah

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