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Hi maddys52,

Thank you for your generosity in replying to my post.  You were correct, I had pretty well eliminated your William Henry Fitzgerald as being the man I'm still trying to find data about.  Maybe, one day I will come across information that shows who his parents were and if he actually came from Nottingham.
There were several 100 William Fitzgerald's who entered Australia up to 1848.  It is a slow process but I have eliminated about a third of them.

regards, Aby

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Australia / Re: William Fitzgerald and Nottingham b 1820 - 1828 exact DoB not known
« on: Wednesday 20 January 21 02:45 GMT (UK)  »
A few updates, regarding William Fitzgerald.
1. Seriously doubt he was born in Nottingham, England.  Ha may have been there at some time but
    nought on the Census returns.
2. According to one record found he was 57 in 1877, grey haired, medium build, blue eyes, sallow
    complexion and 5' 7" tall.  Still from England.
3.  He died in 1889 at Winton, leaving his widow, Bridget nee King (Irish Famine girl)
4.  He had several licences issued of the years as a timber cutter, hawker and auctioneer.
5. Appeared to have been basically a hard working law abiding man, who owned land at various
    places and provided for his family.
6. No where in any of the advertising for permits etc. is there any mention of him being a convict.
7.  Have eliminated WF Bengal Merchant as it is very difficult to be in two places at the same time.  Scone area and Ipswich/Toowoomba areas aren't that close together with a new wife in tow.

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Tyrone / Re: Seeton family
« on: Saturday 19 December 20 21:31 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you again for the contributions and suggestions.  Gives me something to keep my mind busy while allowing my broken ankle time to heal.
Wishing everyone a safe and Happy Christmas ;) ;) ;)

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Tyrone / Re: Seeton family
« on: Saturday 19 December 20 09:19 GMT (UK)  »
Firstly , thank you to both niccorr for that small gem regarding locations and names.  Sometimes I am convinced these people didn't want to be traced.
Secondly to William Seaton,  Some of the names seem to be familiar 'family' names that 'my
 lot like to repeat generation after generation, which is why I feel like I'm up against a brick wall.
Quick question, have you done your DNA?  If so with whom?  I've done mine via My Heritage.  Be brilliant if there is a DNA match between us.   My ggf's younger brother, Robert Seeton went to Durham to work as a miner, he married an Isabell Baxter had a son George William Seeton before being killed in an open faced slag heap collapse. c1890's  I think George served WW1 married had daughters and I've lost the trail.   Found a Thomas Seeton 1890 census from memory was a veteran no idea if he ties in.  Please PM if you like  Aby

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Australia / Re: Appeal Records for City Court Melbourne - late October 1873
« on: Monday 16 November 20 08:49 GMT (UK)  »
my apologies, misquoted, sentenced to  2 months and Mr Fisher gave notice of appeal.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article202520126
The Age (Melbourne, Vic, : 1854 - 1954 Saturday 30 August 1873, page 5

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Australia / Re: Appeal Records for City Court Melbourne - late October 1873
« on: Monday 16 November 20 07:01 GMT (UK)  »
I’m not sure why you think it’s her. Given that it is a different surname and not even her married surname.

Was she already deceased? An Elizabeth Robinson Murdoch, spinster is one of the probate recipients, not Frances. So, she is missing by 1871.
James B Murdoch wrote his will on his deathbed, so yes, Fanny was still alive.  The Elizabeth you refer to was one of their daughters.
Jamjar
His will had provide very well for his family but he hadn't taken into account the probate and the debt he had both locally and with his sister..   Can only guess he hadn't expected his sister to react the way she did. 

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Australia / Re: Appeal Records for City Court Melbourne - late October 1873
« on: Monday 16 November 20 06:32 GMT (UK)  »
Firstly thank you one and all for your input.  As I said in my post IF this is the lady I am looking for, her daughters, and son-in-laws would have had the money.  As well as her sons IF they were still in Victoria.
Thanks jamjam, most likely my tree anyway.
I have been hunting for information relating to her death for years without success.  These court events could well explain a few things for me.  Time line, husband died suddenly 1871, everything  was sold up to repay the loan his sister had made to him.  and I mean EVERYTHING.  The daughters were married by 1873, her parents dead, sisters' married and scattered.  Her son's relocated to north Queensland.
When the tree was done for the 176 year family reunion (200 in 2022) it was stated that Fanny had died 1880 and was buried at Anakie. (assume Victoria as that was where the property was.  Problem there is no death records to be found, no cemetery at Anakie Vic. and at Anakie Qld the cemetery records have been lost.  Only graves with headstones appear in the 'new' record of burials.
Yes, she was born 1820, just out of Edinburgh, Scotland.  Baptised at Gladsmuir.  Her favourite sister was Elizabeth, even though Fanny was 53 she may well have had a breakdown.  So I can understand her slip on names.

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Australia / Appeal Records for City Court Melbourne - late October 1873
« on: Monday 16 November 20 05:02 GMT (UK)  »
My question is this, after trawling through Trove I have found several 'Police and Court' reports in the newspapers that could be about a elusive ancestor.  She is listed as Frances Robinson. on the charge of Vagrancy.  The last clipping says her solicitor was lodging an appear for 2 months time.   Been through the online Victorian Archives, nothing, searched the Asylum inmate records, again nothing, no death registration. She seems to have vanished.
I understand that IF this is the lady  I'm looking for her offspring would be socially embarrassed, but surely there has to be some record of her Appeal case.  Suggestions please.
The lady in question was Frances de Bruton Murdoch, nee Robertson.  Eldest daughter of Gilbert Robertson, late of Geelong and widow of James B. Murdoch late of Anakie, Vic .  Affectionately known as Fanny.

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Cork / Re: William and Margaret Fitzgerald ex Co Cork Ireland
« on: Tuesday 27 October 20 03:27 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for that, what I'm hoping for is someone else can confidently tell me that they didn't have a son named William born between 1815 - 1825.  Or yes they did but have no idea as to what happened to him.

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