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Hi Warren

Was interested in your post regarding Robert & Deborah Turner. He was my Gx7Grandfather and I have also been unable to find out anything before his marriage to Deborah.

According to my records however he died in Lurgan in 1654 which would mean that he is not the Robert who headed to Penn.

David

Hi David:
Have been working on the issue at hand. Have not found Robert but the Turner Family of Turnerstead has apparently been around since ancient times and there are plenty of them in the records. They were well connected enough to to vote in elections of Knights of the Shire -
"1722, Robert Turner of Rothbury Forest voted for Turnerstead and Robert Bulman of Morpeth for Todstead, and again in 1748 Lancelot Turner of Dents -hole voted for lands (Turnerstead) in Brinkburn."

"At the period of the dissolution of the monasteries (Brinkburn 1536) the  prior and convent held a tenement and appurtenances in Weldon-dike, let to the widow of Thomas Bell, as tenant
at will, at the vearlv rent of 6s. 8d.- The messuage called Weldon-hall in the parish of Felton
 and the land belonging to it, then or theretofore in the occupation of Thomas Lisle, of the clear yearly value of 26s. 8d., a messuage in the occupation of Richard Turner ...... "

The oldest reference I found was "Amongst the many landowners in Framlington who gave lands to
the prior and convent of Brinkburn were, Scirgtha, widow of Galfrid Turner,''   I have not been able to date it, but it might be as early as the 1200 - 1300 period.

Also -  Although I don't have the Robert death data you have, I have researched the Pennsylvania Robert and he can't be the the Turnerstead Robert.

The Ogles are an old family, very important in Northumberland and many migrated to Ireland.  By now the family has disbursed enough that this is not really a help, but just background.

Cheers
Warren

Hi Christine:

I have not looked for wills - assuming the Turners were not trhere long enough to have made wills. I did look in the archives for Turners in Alnwick, shilbottle, and so forth with no luck. But I did not do an exhaustive search.
However I did find, in the following publication, a listing of a William Turner in 1616 as a renter.  He was absent from previous listing about 20 years earlier.
 
The History of Shilbottle, Northumberland
The duke of Northumberland's estate comprises the following farms : Town-foot or Shilbottle Buildings, Colliery-farm, Long-dike, Dean Moor, Tweedy-stead, ...

www.fusilier.co.uk/shilbottle_northumberland/history.htm

Cheers
Warren

Thanks as lot:

A summary on what we think we know. 
Robert, daughter Mary and her new husband, and son Thomas and wife, moved to Redford Co. Tyrone NI were they either established, or helped establish, a Quaker community. Both Mary and Thomas are reported to have died there. But I have found no such record of their father or mother. Thomas and Mary's children eventually settled in Turner Hill near Lurgan, a hotbed of Quaker activity.  The first confusion exists in that Thomas Turners first son was named Robert, so that subsequently is is not clear which Robert is referred to in a research finding.  And also another Thomas Turner is born!
I find a number of references to "Robert" Turner being quite active in Quaker affairs.  There is also a substantial number of references to a Robert Turner (a wealthy merchant from Dublin) who was associated with Wm Penn who established Pennsylvania . And there are references to a Thomas Turner, son of a Robert. who also ended up in Pennsylvania. 
It is at this point that we are confused.
With regard to the move to Ireland, did Robert go there because he was a Quaker, or because his wife wanted to be near her children and grandchildren?
That is what my wife would do!
Was Robert Senior well connected enough such that his family would possibly marry into a high ranking family like the Greer/Griers?  I did find one reference to Mary and Thomas being children of "General" Robert Turner  There has been no guesses as to Roberts prior history.
And there a other questions, but these are a couple of issues I am stuck on.  Most of the research is on the Greer/Grier family which is extensively documented: not so much on the Turner side.   

Cheers
Warren
PS Cute Baby - aren't they all!