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Devon / Re: Devon Protestation Returns 1641
« on: Sunday 14 April 19 10:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi Kessa

I think the one at the bottom is Gosse not Crosse. You're right about Thos Davie.


Somerset Lookup Requests / Re: 1795 Somerset baptism look up request
« on: Sunday 14 April 19 00:11 BST (UK)  »
You can look her up yourself on FreeREG, which has better coverage of the Bath area at that time than Ancestry anyway.

The best candidates are
Sarah dau of John and Elizabeth Norman. 2 Dec 1793, Walcot (part of Bath)
Sarah dau of William and Ann Norman. 7 May 1797, St Michael's, Bath.


Devon / Re: Devon Protestation Returns 1641
« on: Saturday 13 April 19 11:35 BST (UK)  »
I can see:

John Crosse         p1 col2 top
Tristr(um/an?) Davie      p1 col3 5 down
Peter Grant          p1 c2 1 up from bottom
John Grant           2 -1 - bottom
John Crosse          2 - 2 - 9
John Crosse         2 -3 - 1
Hugh Crosse         2 -3 - 4 up

There's also a Walter Cardon (2-3-9) which I suppose could just possibly be a variation of Capron.


Devon / Re: Devon Protestation Returns 1641
« on: Friday 12 April 19 21:57 BST (UK)  »
The Parliament site has images of the Holcombe Rogus list, four pages of signatures of varying legibility. I don't feel up to transcribing the whole thing but are there any names you're particularly interested in?

Somerset / Re: Polsham - Wells. Baptisms FRY & TEEK
« on: Saturday 16 February 19 22:08 GMT (UK)  »
Another link I'd forgotten about: Edward Carter Holmes's grandmother was a Mabel Jackman from Romsey in Hampshire. Jane Jackman also came from Romsey so I expect they were related but I haven't tried to trace how. So it looks like Robert Teek and Sarah Holmes were related in at least two ways by blood and once more by marriage.


Somerset / Re: Polsham - Wells. Baptisms FRY & TEEK
« on: Saturday 16 February 19 18:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, it's been a while since I looked at this branch of the family but this is my take.

Robert Teek was baptised at Polsham by James and Sarah Teek in Jan 1826, so probably born late 1825. The Robert Teek who brought back the cattle in 1895 is described as "of Polsham" and there is no sign of any other Robert Teek born in the area so I think they are the same person. (Where did you get the 1834?) Also the 1826 one is described as a Cattle dealer in various places.

Catherine Teek was a first cousin of Robert's father James. James was the son of another Robert who was a son of Matthew Teek, Catherine was the daughter of Joseph who was another son of Matthew. There was also another connection as Robert's grandmother (Jane Jackman wife of his grandfather Robert Teek) married secondly a John Fry who was a brother of Stephen Fry Kitching's mother Sarah Fry.

Robert married Ann Fry in 1859. She was from the same large Fry family. Her father was a son of John Fry and Jane Jackman, her mother a daughter of William Fry, another brother of Sarah.

As you say, Robert seems to have had a chequered career. He was declared bankrupt in Australia in 1858 which perhaps prompted the return to England, and then again in London in 1862, presumably causing a return to Australia. He does not appear in the 1871, 1881 or 1891 censuses in the UK and was presumably in Australia at those times, but he could have returned inbetween those dates. He seems to have married there in 1874 but not had any children - but he used different names so who knows. In the 1891 census his English wife Ann is described as a widow, but in 1901 they are together, keeping a lodging house in Wells! He died later that year and was buried in Wells 2 Nov. He is recorded on his wife's gravestone at Monkton Farleigh, her home village.

Do you have access to Ancestry? I have a tree on there which includes a lot of the Fry family connections. (I am descended from a sister of the Sarah Fry who married Kitching.)


Somerset Lookup Requests / Re: Mitchell Marriages - South Cadbury area
« on: Wednesday 30 January 19 21:03 GMT (UK)  »
There was apparently a marriage licence dated 14 Apr 1679 for John Mitchell of South Cadbury, husbandman, and Ann Haggard, spinster, aged 26 of Sutton, to be performed at Weston Bampfylde or Sutton Montis.   (  p.275)

That looks more likely to be your John and Ann than the marriage at Taunton. Neither parish has surviving registers or BTs covering that date.


Somerset Lookup Requests / Re: Mitchell Marriages - South Cadbury area
« on: Wednesday 30 January 19 16:27 GMT (UK)  »
The Soundex function on FreeREG dos not realise Michell is a variation of Mitchell, so you need to search for both spellings.

There is a marriage in 1658 at Doulting of Mr John Michell of *moone and Mrs. Mary Spearing of Chuton. The first part of the groom's abode is quite illegible and I have no idea where it could be. Doulting is about 13 miles from South Cadbury, but it's also about 10 miles from Chewton Mendip so that doesn't completely rule out this wedding as a possibility.

I can't see any other candidates. Note that the 1650s were the Interregnum: at times marriages were performed by magistrates not in church and even if they were recorded some records were discarded at the Restoration.

Moving on to the 1680s, there is another baptism for John and Ann: Joane in 1691 (FreeREG has 1689 but although the entry is in a column headed 1689 it is dated 20 May 1691.)

There's also a burial at South Cadbury of Sarah, daughter of John Michell of Witcombe and Mary. That's interesting as it probably refers to one of the villages which are nowadays called North and South Widcombe, which are in the Chew Valley and not far from Chewton Mendip. That makes the Doulting wedding look a better fit. (There's also a Widcombe near Bath, but that's even further from South Cadbury. Either way it shows the Michells moved around.)


Oops, there's also a Witcombe in Corton Denham, just south of South Cadbury and the SHC has leases of land in Witcombe to Michells of South Cadbury in the 18th century, so the Doulting wedding goes down again in likelihood.

Devon / Re: Sarah Channon m. John Squire 10 Jul 1798 Cullompton, Devon
« on: Sunday 27 January 19 00:24 GMT (UK)  »
Ah, I see the marriage with Elizabeth White is shown in several Ancestry trees, and took place in Worcestershire in 1739! She is mostly shown as born in 1712, making her 54 when the daughter Elizabeth was born. Some have 1718, making her "only" 48. Squire appears to be a fairly common name in the Cullompton area, I would want some firm evidence before giving those trees any credence, and they don't seem to have any at all.

I notice the younger John Squire was also a widower from Plymtree, when he married Sarah Channon. His first wife appears to have been Dorothy Adams, married at Cullompton in 1788. They had a daughter Elizabeth baptised at Plymtree in 1791 and Dorothy was buried there in 1795.


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