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The Common Room / Re: LESTER family…, anyone own this finger ?
« on: Thursday 12 January 23 13:56 GMT (UK)  »
It think it may be JMiller (Journeyman Miller)
Compare to the J in Jo and M's on the page.

Thank you Trish.  Lol..., yes, I think you are correct.   ;)  (wishful thinking)

The Common Room / Re: LESTER family…, anyone own this finger ?
« on: Thursday 12 January 23 11:29 GMT (UK)  »


The images of the baptisms can be viewed here,

The baptisms so far are in Newcastle upon Tyne, St Nicholas.

John and Joseph are on page 150, although they are baptised on the same day they have different birthdates.


Thank you Daisy…

It’s amazing how much information can be put on one single page…, marriages and baptisms included. (and on both sides) 
So, they were not twins. 

I found this entry for a ‘Jo’ Lester married to a Mary in the 1841 census…  Lol…, I’m suffering from effects of Kleenex-tissue and hazy-eye syndrome.  Could I be criticized in the belief that this trade was a JOINER ? 

The Common Room / Re: LESTER family…, anyone own this finger ?
« on: Wednesday 11 January 23 09:54 GMT (UK)  »
You are all absolutely amazing…, thank you. 
Thank goodness I don’t have your expertise, otherwise I’d have nothing else to do concerning my personal tree.     ;)

Very much appreciated…, Iain. 

PS  My book should be on the shelves this year and Joseph is included.  And I will certainly add RootsChat to the list of credits. 

The Common Room / Re: LESTER family…, anyone own this finger ?
« on: Wednesday 11 January 23 03:01 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Daisy...

Not sure, as I've not found the time to work on your research.
After updating his birth date, Ancestry immediately gave Esther as his mother. (coincidence ?)
In the meantime, because of the 'Wellington' connection, I'm looking forward to surfing the newspapers.

Regards..., Iain. 

The Common Room / Re: LESTER family…, anyone own this finger ?
« on: Tuesday 10 January 23 15:45 GMT (UK)  »
Daisy…, thank you.  You are my 2023 genealogical New Year’s present.   ;)

Yes, I had noticed the spelling variations with even some possible sources having Jos instead of Joseph.  On his service papers and his company’s muster roll they have Lester, but officers can make mistakes, and it’s probably not the soldier who would have noticed it.  I think I will follow your hints and put him down as Leister.
In the meantime, you have clinched it by mentioning ‘joiner.’  And the dates also correspond with the officer having written his age as “seventeen.”  Prior to enlistment, Joseph was an apprentice carpenter…, which he ‘cut short’ in order to join up.  As such, you have not only provided his baptism date, but also a wife, meaning that I should be able to trace a 2023 family. 

Thank you for your time. 
Kind Regards…, Iain. 

PS  Wellington knew about Joseph because he nominated him as one of two Guardsmen to share a £10-yearly pension.   

The Common Room / LESTER family…, anyone own this finger ?
« on: Monday 09 January 23 13:22 GMT (UK)  »
Good afternoon everyone.  I’m wondering if someone could help me find a birth or death date ?  If I have it, Ancestry should be able to help me find descendants.  I’ve started a tree for this former Waterloo soldier, (no relation) but I need a date before any information can be extracted from Ancestry or the British Newspaper Archives.

A few years back, the ‘Waterloo Uncovered’ archaeologists discovered a finger bone at the Hougoumont farm.  Nothing unusual in that, despite bones being an extremely rare find following so many deaths.  However, I am researching a certain private called Joseph Lester who served in the 2nd Battalion 3rd Regiment of Foot Guards.  On his demob papers, the Surgeon Major wrote, as usual, ‘worn out,’ but he also added that Joseph had lost a middle finger of his right hand.  Unfortunately, he wrote that the cause of this injury was due to a prior battle.  I would like the opportunity to check that out by finding a descendant, then ask for a DNA test. 
Yes…, a very remote possibility, but you never know !

   Birth abt1789 • St. Nicholas, Newcastle, Northumberland, England.
   1806 description - Height 5-feet, 11 and 1/8 inches. 'Sandy' hair, grey eyes, fair complexion.
   Enlistment - 18 April 1807
   On his Statement of Service, the officer wrote that he was seventeen years of age.
   Demob 5 April 1827 • London, England.  Sergeant…, following 21-years, 12 days.  Conduct very good.
   1827 Chelsea Pensioner Outpatient, aged 38.

Working on the assumption that an Ancestry member has him in their tree, that relation could have him down as being a former soldier. 
This man was one of the Guardsmen who assisted with a shoulder during the second breach of the Northgate…, and Wellington knew his name.

Thanks in advance…, Iain. 

The Common Room / Re: ‘MY’ Ancestry trees – but unrelated :
« on: Thursday 05 January 23 14:41 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you everyone…
I think all three of you do the same as myself, individual trees with no connection to my wife or myself.  Of course, rendering the trees private would run contrary to my research as I’d have no feedback.   

In the meantime, my ‘problem’ highlights a parallel and annoying issue which I have only just realized.  When I surf a member’s profile, very often there are up to ten family names.  And it’s only now I’ve realized that they don’t all belong to that particular member.  Frustrating, when surfing ‘Public Member Trees’ for my family, when it’s indicted under his/her name, and in reality, my name is connected to his/her neighbour or some friend in Australia.  A bit like me creating a tree for Winston Churchill…, everyone would get the impression that we were related.  “A mine field” as Biggles said !

I was in the hope there would be a system like Facebook, where I can have my family and photos on my page, and if I wish, I can ‘hook up’ with another group of military friends and publish all my ‘lamp swinging’ photos with them.

Lol…, to tell you the truth, I had a niggling belief that the system ran contrary to Ancestry rules and regulations.   ;)

The Common Room / ‘MY’ Ancestry trees – but unrelated :
« on: Wednesday 04 January 23 15:17 GMT (UK)  »
Good afternoon everyone…
I wrote to Ancestry a few weeks ago with a question, however, they did not reply.

I am a battlefield detective specializing in Waterloo, and in order to research the soldiers involved, I have created quite a few trees to assist with their biographies.  Two of the many advantages with the system is that I learn the name of a wife, who could have been a Camp Follower. (I have one perfect example who ended up helping the surgeons at the field hospital at Mont-Saint-Jean)  Another Guardsman lost a finger…, and the archaeologists found a finger bone.  By knowing his descendants, this could allow for a DNA test.
Another more common example of the system could be when a neighbour or a friend needs help with his/her genealogy. (something that must happen with thousands of us around the world)  Creating such random trees would be in Ancestry’s interest. (publicity, encouraging membership while helping members with their personal research)  However, it’s not very interesting for ‘me,’ to have a neighbour’s tree next to mine. 
Because these Waterloo trees are next to mine, and if any Ancestry member stumbles on one of them, they could be led to believe that we are related.   

So, my question to Ancestry was…, is there a place on the website where these trees can be placed, while still remaining responsible for them ?

Anyone any ideas ?   ;)
Thanks…, Iain. 

The Common Room / Re: Has anyone tried to use the National Archives?
« on: Thursday 29 December 22 15:01 GMT (UK)  »
Before you think about visiting the National Archives, you need to familiarise yourself with their holdings and the process involved with visiting or requesting their services.

Go to the website and click on the big red dot saying MENU, then starting on the left hand side of the drop down menu, read each link, not forgetting to scroll down each page. All the information you want is there, you need to be prepared to spend some time doing this, but it will pay dividends in the long run.

The same familiarisation goes for any Archives, it will save you many wasted hours when you actually visit in person.

Happy researching.

Hi Jebber...., and thank you. 
Something I always find frustrating when researching (almost anywhere) is when I know for a fact there is an error. 
I am researching 15 men who were Courts-Martialled following Waterloo.  I'm former Scots Guards and visited the archives at Wellington Barracks a couple of years ago, and was told that all the content had been sent to the National Archives for scanning. 
I followed your advice and they say that the info is with the regiment.  Which is not true as even the 3 Guards Brigade regiments present know nothing about the affair. 

Kind Regards...., Iain. 

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