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Juls,

Not related as far as I know, but my great great grandfather Edward Henry Butler was in partnership (as Butler, Pickering and Beckett) with Henry Pickering until Henry's death - such a shame Mike's not still here - he'd be loving this!! Planning to visit Henry's grave next time am at Welford Road Cemetery - will say Hello to him for you!! Have recently found a memento from their time in partnership.

Maggie

Don't go near the record office then - seems the cathedral grounds have been reordered a number of times (including the late 1800s and the 1930s) - record office has copies of letters of complaint when, in a previous reordering, headstones were buried underground at the cathedral!! Don't know if my John's parents, Henry and Elizabeth (nee Fielding) Butler, had a headstone (they were buried at the cathedral) but have never found it!! :-(

...and a p.s. to the post 1 May 2014 above - John Butler(1800 - 1834)'s headstone was not buried as thought, it was MOVED!! It is now at Saffron Hill Cemetery https://www.leicester.gov.uk/your-community/births-marriages-and-deaths/funerals-burials-and-cremations/cemeteries/saffron-hill-cemetery/, tho his body, as far as we know, is still in situ outside the cathedral!! Have been to visit John's stone, and taken my Dad to see it - it's in really good nick, and also commemorates John's widow (Jane, nee Hollins), tho her body is at Welford Road Cemetery http://www.fowrcl.org.uk/ with her second set of inlaws, and her second husband, Thomas Snaith, is elsewhere in Leicestershire, with the lady he married after Jane died - confusing or what??!!

Hello Armstrong People!!

Researching on behalf of step mum - wondering if anyone has come across these two Armstrong brothers before 1911...

In 1911 William Thompson Armstrong and Thomas Armstrong are living in Brinsworth, Yorkshire, England with two sisters, Janet and Marion nee Nichol, with five children between them. Both brothers say they were born in Stockton in Durham. William dies in 1917, and Thomas in 1932, both in Brinsworth, Yorkshire, England. William’s birth year according to the 1911 would be about 1866, but according to the burial record would be about 1859, Thomas’s birth year according to the 1911 would be about 1869, but according to the burial record would be about 1863.

Thomas is my step mother’s grandfather – would really like to be able to find out who Thomas’s parents are for her if I can. The story is further complicated in that we cannot find a marriage for either of the brothers to either of the sisters - possible there are no marriages to be found - Janet was previously married to a Thomas Fletcher - and the parentage of some of the children would appear to be not as described in 1911 – but these are side issues really – it’s the parentage of the two Armstrong brothers that is the main challenge.

Thanks to anyone who has suggestions that might take us in the right direction!! Step mum’s ancestry dna results are in, and there are several Armstrong lines that suggest that the two chaps who say they were born in Durham are from a family that has roots in Canonbie – but there are so many Armstrongs in Canonbie that “bridging the gap” not looking an easy task!!

Sorry can’t help with this - new to the “Armstrong” party!! Hope you have made progress with your Armstrongs.

Have posted request on another thread but posting the link here just in case you have any ideas.... Thanks!! :-)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=158997.new#new