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Yorkshire (North Riding) Lookup Requests / Northallerton Parish Records - LINTON/AINSLEY
« on: Wednesday 06 August 14 07:49 BST (UK)  »
Hi -

I am hoping someone may be able to help me trace records for my 5x great grandmother, Jane Ainsley, who lived in Northallerton.  I'd love to be able to get her parent's names so I can trace that line of my family further back.

I have been able to locate Jane Ainsley's marriage to John Linton at Northallerton in 1789, and baptism records their children there, however I have not been able to locate any BTs for her baptism or burial. 

If anyone is able to help I'd be very grateful.

Thanks
Naomi

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Australia / Re: South Australia Immigration: Thomas James MESSENGER
« on: Friday 02 December 11 08:44 GMT (UK)  »
Just checked GOONS - it seems to have been removed which is a pity.  I would have been interested to see what they had!

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Australia / Re: South Australia Immigration: Thomas James MESSENGER
« on: Friday 02 December 11 06:18 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: crow41 on Friday 02 December 11 01:05 GMT (UK)
Note Our Thomas Messenger from Aylesbury is s/o William Messenger and Mary Henley, this is as far as we have traced back on this branch.

Could you let me know what sources you've used to come up with William Messenger and Mary Henley as parents?  I started with these parents as well, but having searched all the primary records I could find and haven't been able to find any sources that showed this outside of the IGI records.  Thanks.

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Australia / Re: South Australia Immigration: Thomas James MESSENGER
« on: Thursday 01 December 11 08:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hi -

Like you, I've been struggling along trying to decipher Thomas James Messenger's history and some curious issues about when he arrived and where he was born. 

Like you I have been hunting through Buckinghamshire records.  I've been unable to find any Thomas James Messenger, however when I looked I noticed that there is no record of his middle name being James, such as on his marriage certificate, birth certificates for children or his death certificate. I've wondered if this name was taken on by Thomas unofficially or just never recorded by the officials (or, possibly, not even used by Thomas and created by someone else?)

The best fit I could find within Buckinghamshire records was Thomas Messenger, baptised 19 Sept 1830 in Hulcott.  This matches the right age of Thomas James Messenger, according to other records, however this is the Thomas that ended up migrating to Australia in 1848 on the David Malcolm.  This date of immigration also fits how long he was reported to have spent in Australia according to his death notice in the Advertiser (62 years). If he'd been on the Resource, he'd have been in Australia for 71 years.

I'd be really interested to know the information that family relatives gave you about the relationship not being with the Thomas Messenger who arrived in 1848 - noone that I had contact with discussed family history with me.


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Cumberland Completed Lookups / Completed: Carlisle lookup request - Hibbert
« on: Monday 30 August 10 10:49 BST (UK)  »
I am hoping to find someone who may have access to the Carlisle, St Cuthbert parish registers who could look up the marriage of Martha Hibbert and Francis Clark on  27 Feb 1836.   I have found them on IGI, but am hoping for a name of someone else in Martha's family so I can track down her birth.

Any help/suggestions on where else to look would be appreciated.

Thanks
Nomer

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Australia / Re: South Australia Immigration: Thomas James MESSENGER
« on: Wednesday 25 August 10 06:14 BST (UK)  »
I can give a bit more information on George Messenger & Jane Barty’s children: 

̵  Frederick George Messenger b 24 April 1879 Pt Adelaide, d 25 Oct 1964, Wooroloo Western Australia, buried Karrakatta Cemetery
̵  Ernest John Messenger b 9 Oct 1881 Rosewater South Aust., d 10 Dec 1963 (Palmyra Western Australia), buried Fremantle Cemetery; m Ada Susan Denney in 1918 (WA)
̵   Ann Minnie Watson Messenger b 15 April 1884 Pt Adelaide - d 19 Dec 1898 Payneham SA
̵  Elsie May Messenger b19 July 1886 Pt Augusta South Aust, m Robert Francis Bartlett 1905 (Brookton, Western Australia)
̵  Herbert Charles Messenger b 12 Jan 1889 Pt Adelaide, m Maud Grace Toop 1924 (Fremantle, Western Australia) d 21 Dec 1974 (Hilton Park, Western Australia).
̵  Evelyn Annie Messenger b 23 May 1891 Woodville South Aust, m John Charles Percival Price 1911 (Western Australia), d 23 Jan 1931 (Victoria Park, Western Australia)
̵   Linda Jane Messenger b 13 Oct 1893 Pt Adelaide, m Albert William Bairstow 02 Sep 1914 (Dumbleyung, Western Australia)
̵  Edith Alice Messenger b 30 May 1895 (Queenstown South Aust), d 1902 (Western Australia)
̵  Jane Barty Messenger, b 1898 (Boulder, Western Australia)
̵  Florence Winifred Messenger, b 1902 (Trafalgar, Western Australia), m Thomas Leo Pike, 1924 (Beverley, Western Australia), d 28 Jun 1990 (Mosman Park, Western Australia), buried Karrakatta Cemetery
̵   Edgar Morris Messenger, b 17 Jan 1905 (Norwood South Aust), d 08 Sep 1968 (Nedlands, Western Australia), buried Karrakatta Cemetery

If you are interested in info on George Messenger’s ancestors or siblings let me know

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Australia / Re: South Australia Immigration: Thomas James MESSENGER
« on: Saturday 17 July 10 05:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi Barry -

Have you been able to find any sources that confirm Thomas was the son of William Messenger and Mary Henley, outside of the BISA?  I've been having great difficulty trying to do this. My family link is through Jesse Messenger.

Cheers
Nomer

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Australia / Re: South Australia Immigration: Thomas James MESSENGER- more advice please!
« on: Friday 02 July 10 11:03 BST (UK)  »
Hello again -

I have been in touch with the Buckinghamshire Family History Society and got birth, death and marriage records for Messengers for the time period I am interested in (if anyone else is interested in Bucks. Messenger family let me know).

I have identified two potential Thomas' for my family tree:

1.  Thomas Messenger, b. 19 Sep 1830 [son of Francis and Martha Messenger of Hucott)
2.  Thomas James Messenger, b. 6 Jan 1828  [son of James and Phebe Messenger of Long Crendon)

No. 1 is the best match for age, going on his being 79 when he died in Feb 1910.  His family also matches given there is a brother named Jesse, and Thomas James had a son called Jesse. 

No. 2 is the best match for name, but I haven't been able to find any more information on James and Phebe Messenger of Long Crendon to see if there is any other information to help make a decision.  (I've tried the census reports with no luck, yet if he immigrated in 1848 he should be there somewhere)

Does anyone have any suggestions on where I could go from here?

Thanks again for your help and ideas

Nomer

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Australia / Re: South Australia Immigration: Thomas James MESSENGER
« on: Sunday 27 June 10 08:51 BST (UK)  »
Thanks everyone for your help in tracking down the immigration information. 

From what everyone has said, it seems pretty much everything I had was wrong    :-[

I think I'm going to have to start from scratch again, going by nothing more than a name, approx. year of birth and that he came from England in 1848, maybe from Surrey if the BISA has this right.

Can anyone tell me where the BISA information was sourced from? 

Kris - Can you tell more where you got the baptisms in Ivinghoe from? The fact that there is a Jesse Messenger listed is interesting, as one of my Thomas' sons was called Jesse which makes me interested in finding out more about the family.

Thanks again!

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