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Antrim / Re: John McNEILL - who's his father?
« on: Thursday 14 March 24 10:06 GMT (UK)  »
Whoa!  You generous people are overwhelming me with your kindness and it's going to take me a while to get to grips with all the information you've provided.

In the mean-time, can I return to a question from Scotmum asking about what research I'd done? This was all several years ago so I've re-visited it and might have to admit that it's beginning to look to me as if the Civil Servant/Daniel McNEILL line is a red herring.

It all starts with:-

22 Mar 1905  John McNEILL born to Joseph & Elizabeth (nee WHITE) of 21 Michael St, Belfast
                                                     a barber

John eventually joined the Merchant Navy and died on 29 Jul 1940 following an attack on his ship by the Luftwaffe off the north coast of Scotland.

26 Mar 1880  Joseph McNEILL born to John & Mary (nee WAUGH) of 1 Cultra St, Belfast
                                                    Master Mariner

23 Dec 1901  Joseph McNEILL  m  Elizabeth Hunter WHITE in St Anne's C of I, Belfast
                     Hair dresser
                     2 Carnalea St                  7 Michael St
           Father: John McNEILL               Benjamin WHITE
                      Sea Captain                     Labourer

That's as far as I'd managed to get because of a lack of on-line records. Returning to the search after a gap of some half-a-dozen years, I made the mistake of looking for the birth of John (senior) when I should have been looking for his marriage which, as you all now know, must be that which took place on 17 Feb 1875 between John McNEILL and Mary Elizabeth WAUGH.

It was only when I looked more carefully at the birth and marriage records that I realised that I now had two putative fathers whom I couldn't reconcile, and that's when I appealed for your help. I believe that I now have the answer to my question and I must, therefore, apologise to you all for starting a wild goose chase when I should have gone back to basics (as suggested by Scotmum).

I'm sorry that I've wasted so much of your time, and I'm truly grateful for all you've done.

Thank you.

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Antrim / Re: John McNEILL - who's his father?
« on: Wednesday 13 March 24 22:48 GMT (UK)  »
I didn't think to include it earlier but, on the marriage record from 1875 are the statements:-

                              "Husband's father's occupation:  Labourer"

                             "Husband's father deceased"

which rules out those who died after 1875

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Antrim / Re: John McNEILL - who's his father?
« on: Wednesday 13 March 24 16:38 GMT (UK)  »
1.  I'm afraid I don't recognise the reference you quoted. I found this marriage on rootsireland.ie

2.  John McNEILL's occupation in 1901 was 'sea captain', resident in Belfast

3.  The marriage I have is:-
            17 Feb 1875  John McNEILL  m  Mary Elizabeth WAUGH  in Ballycarry (Presp)
                                   Sailor                         Dressmaker

4.  My inability to find any connection with Andrew McNEILL!!!!

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Antrim / John McNEILL - who's his father?
« on: Wednesday 13 March 24 14:44 GMT (UK)  »
When John applied to enter the Civil Service in 1867, his birth date is given as 02 Nov 1848 and his father's name is recorded as Daniel McNEILL.

When John married in 1875, being of full age, his father's name is recorded as Andrew McNEILL (a labourer).

I cannot find any baptismal record of a John McNEILL, with father Andrew, around that time or in that area, and neither can I find a marriage for Andrew McNEILL which might match.

I've not been able to access the original record of the 1875 marriage; the 1867 record is quite clear.

Am I conflating 2 totally disparate events or making some other error? Is the marriage transcript wrong?

Any help would be much appreciated.

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Ireland / Re: Bartholomew QUIGLEY & Ann HUNT ca 1840
« on: Monday 11 March 24 22:04 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks. It seems eminently sensible now; I hope it turns out the same when I try it!!!!

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Ireland / Re: Bartholomew QUIGLEY & Ann HUNT ca 1840
« on: Monday 11 March 24 17:09 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry to be a bit obtuse, but that's not the address I have at the top of the page. I have

RootsChat.Com »Ireland (Historical Counties) »Ireland (Moderator: KarenM) »Bartholomew QUIGLEY & Ann HUNT ca 1840

Once we've sorted out which address I copy, where do I place it?

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Ireland / Re: Bartholomew QUIGLEY & Ann HUNT ca 1840
« on: Monday 11 March 24 14:27 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the suggestion.

How do I do that? Do I merely mention this topic when I start a new thread?

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Ireland / Re: Bartholomew QUIGLEY & Ann HUNT ca 1840
« on: Monday 11 March 24 12:34 GMT (UK)  »
I think that I can now mark this topic "complete" so, unless anyone disagrees, I shall do that later.

My sincere thanks to you all for the effort you've put into it, which has been absolutely fantastic.

Thank you

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Ireland / Re: Bartholomew QUIGLEY & Ann HUNT ca 1840
« on: Sunday 10 March 24 09:40 GMT (UK)  »
Some records in 'rootsireland.ie' reference 'Kilshalvey Kilturra' with no punctation; other records reference 'Kilshalvey, Achonry'.

Having no knowledge of the region, I can only go by what my source provides.

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