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Europe / Re: W.W. 11 Crash site Memorial.
« on: Friday 21 January 22 14:34 GMT (UK)  »
Well done, Cathy!  ;D

@Robneve: If you click on Cathy's link and scroll down, there is a map. Zoom in, and you will see that the location marked is almost exactly in the middle between Nindorf and Daensen.

Date, time, etc. all correlate with what you wrote.

This must be the memorial you are looking for - and there are lots of photos.

And if you do ever get the chance to come over: It is a pretty area, and only a few minutes from Hamburg, which is always worth a visit.  :)

All the best,
in Wolfenbüttel

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Name of WW1 AIF soldier please
« on: Thursday 20 January 22 13:05 GMT (UK)  »
Just to add my 2 penn'orth as my mother would say - when I was at school in the 50s & 60s I was taught 'Yours faithfully' in a business letter or to a stranger - addressed Dear Sir or Madam. To a named person who you knew, it would be the less formal 'Yours sincerely'. Close relatives - (in my family) 'love'.

People from the generation in question and even up to the 60s tended to use what we would think of as quite formal language. You only have to look at the newspapers of the time!

I must admit that I miss such formal language! I am unable to read a newspaper these days without crying out in anger.  ;D
That applies to watching the BBC news, though, too...  ::)

I agree: When I was at school (late 60s and throughout the 70s), we were taught that "Yours faithfully" ended a letter which had begun with "Dear Sir/Madam", and "Yours sincerely" ended a later which had begun with Dear Mr X/Mrs X/Miss X. (We didn't have Ms then  :D).

Just my two penn'th.  ;D

Europe / Re: Devers and German Butchers
« on: Wednesday 05 January 22 11:03 GMT (UK)  »

 - but see my comment below on SAlzgitter - is Salzgitter part of Dornton District?

No. Salzgitter has a long and complicated history - as does Dörnten (please be careful with spellings!).

Below is a link to a WiKi page which explains Salzgitter's history. There is a lot of text, but it might be interesting for you. Kniestedt no longer exists as a village - it was swallowed up in 1938 during the re-naming/re-organisation of the entire area. The name appears in a few roads, allotments, etc. The only mention Kniestedt gets on this WiKi page is under "Buildings" - apparently there is a nice farmhouse there which is now an old people's home and a music school.  :)

There is a good WiKi page for Kniestedt, but it is only in German. Here is a quick 'n dirty translation  ::) of the important bits:

In the Middle Ages, Kniestedt belonged to the Salzgau, which in turn belonged to the bishopric of Hildesheim founded by Louis the Pious in 815. After the reorganisation of the Principality of Hildesheim, Kniestedt belonged to the Liebenburg office from 1330. After the end of the Hildesheim Collegiate Feud, the village fell to the Duchy of Braunschweig-Lüneburg in 1523. In 1643, Hildesheim received most of the former Great Abbey back, including Kniestedt. After the incorporation of the Diocese of Hildesheim by Prussia on 3 August 1802, the High Diocese of Hildesheim - and with it Kniestedt - fell to the Kingdom of Prussia. During Napoleonic rule from 1807 to 1813, Kniestedt belonged to the Kingdom of Westphalia as a commune in the canton of Salzgitter in the district of Goslar in the department of the Oker;   :D the mayor (Maire) of the canton was provided by the von Kniestedt family. From 1815 Kniestedt belonged to the Kingdom of Hanover again. This was annexed by the Kingdom of Prussia in 1866. After the reorganisation of the Prussian Land Order of 6 March 1884, the district of Goslar was formed in 1885 from the town of Goslar and the districts of Liebenburg and Wöltingerode, to which Kniestedt belonged from then on.

From 1937 onwards, large areas were needed as building and settlement land for the expansion of ore mining and the construction of the Reichswerke Hermann Göring. The affected owners had to cede their property and were compensated with replacement land. The Kniestedt estate was also transferred with all its land into the ownership of the Reichswerke; the family of the Count of Münster relocated to Hesse.

As a further consequence of the industrialisation of the region, Kniestedt was integrated into the municipality of Salzgitter(-Bad) on 1 April 1938. On 1 April 1942, the town of Watenstedt-Salzgitter was founded, which was renamed Salzgitter in 1951.

That may explain a bit. Or confuse things even more.  ::) But as for Dörnten:

From the Middle Ages onwards, Dörnten belonged to the Liebenburg office in the Hildesheim diocese. The affiliation to the diocese was interrupted by the Hildesheim Collegiate Feud, when the Liebenburg office fell to Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel with the Quedlinburg recess of 1523. In 1643, the Liebenburg office again came under the rule of the prince-bishop of Hildesheim. After the secularisation of the diocese, it fell to Prussia in 1802, belonged to the Kingdom of Westphalia from 1807 to 1812, then to Hanover until 1866 and then to Prussia again. The village was administered by the Liebenburg district until 1884, then by the Goslar district until the 1940s. In 1942 Dörnten became part of the state of Braunschweig as part of a territorial exchange, and with it the state of Lower Saxony in 1946. On 1 July 1972, Dörnten was incorporated into the municipality of Liebenburg.

So as you can see, the borders and responsible offices changed many, many times.

In a nutshell: Kniestedt no longer exists as a village in its own right; it is part of Salzgitter-Bad.

I would assume (possibly a dangerous thing to do  :o) that the records from back then are held by the offices in Salzgitter, as opposed to Goslar.

All the best,

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Need Your Help Again
« on: Tuesday 04 January 22 20:21 GMT (UK)  »
Pipped at the post by heywood!  :D

I was just about to write Journeyman.

Europe / Re: Devers and German Butchers
« on: Sunday 02 January 22 15:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Bec,

I live a few minutes from Salzgitter.  :)

There is not a village named Kneidstedt. Do you have a document where this is shown? If we could determine the name of the village, I might be able to help you further. It could just be that the handwriting is difficult to decipher and it says something else.  ;)

Best regards,

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Three German words
« on: Sunday 07 November 21 21:02 GMT (UK)  »

It could also be something like Gemeinderat (local/municipal council), but difficult to say without more context.

Best regards,

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: William Wood uniform
« on: Tuesday 02 November 21 07:46 GMT (UK)  »
Great find Karen, it looks like you have found a match  ;D

 ;D Thanks!
I had almost forgotten how the buzz feels when you find something like that.  :D

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: William Wood uniform
« on: Monday 01 November 21 19:51 GMT (UK)  »
This looks like a strong contender:

Scroll down to 2nd photo. Under the photo it says in pencil National coal board cap/blazer badge.

Best regards,

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Deciphering the attached name
« on: Friday 22 October 21 21:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

If I am seeing this correctly, Margaret's name was originally entered before William's by mistake and then struck through.
This version is a little larger - although still almost indecipherable - but I can't see a long letter like a "p" or a "g". (The "g" in this Margaret is very long.)

Can anyone else see more than I can?!  :)

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