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England / Re: Explanation of BMD entry.
« on: Sunday 14 April 24 13:08 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: BumbleB on Sunday 14 April 24 12:40 BST (UK)
Not sure whether this has been noticed on the "Entry Information" related to this particular 1929 query -

Possible late entry
Normally GRO Index page numbers are numeric, optionally followed by a letter. As this page number ('See D45') does not follow this format it is possible that it is a Late Entry. Late Entries mean that the registration of the event was delayed, e.g. parents did not attend the Register Office to record a birth but the birth was registered much later when the child was about to begin work, or an Inquest after a death prevented the immediate issuing of a death certificate. A Late Entry attempts to show a searcher where to look for the actual GRO reference. Unfortunately the format of such Late Entries is not standardised, but the usual pattern is a letter showing the Quarter of the Registration [March (M), June (J), September (S) or December (D)] followed by the last two digits of the year, thus giving the quarter and year when the Registration was entered into the GRO records. A reference that reads 'see J/75' would therefore indicate that the GRO registration and reference is probably to be found in the June Quarter of either 1875 or 1975 (depending on context).


Which shows what the issue is very well - absolutely no mention at all of re-registration, which is the explanation for the vast majority of such entries. True "late" entries do exist of course, but are actually quite rare, whereas the indexes, especially from 1927 onwards, are full of re-registrations.

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England / Re: Explanation of BMD entry.
« on: Sunday 14 April 24 12:26 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: BumbleB on Sunday 14 April 24 12:21 BST (UK)
As a FreeBMD transcriber - our instructions are to enter what we see.  We are not asked to interpret entries.

Which of course is correct, and as it should be, and I meant no criticism of the transcribers who have worked so hard to give us such a fantastic resource....the real issue is with the help/explanation that FreeBMD shows.

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England / Re: Explanation of BMD entry.
« on: Sunday 14 April 24 12:14 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: mckha489 on Sunday 14 April 24 12:07 BST (UK)
So are you saying the notes should be on the September entry?

Looks like it ....

One of the problems with FreeBMD is that there appears to be no understanding of (or the transcribers aren't told about) birth re-registrations, and they are generally just noted as being "late" which they very rarely actually are.

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England / Re: Explanation of BMD entry.
« on: Sunday 14 April 24 11:53 BST (UK)  »
Almost certainly it is a straightforward, and very common, re-registration, probably done after the later marriage of the parents (under the Legitimacy Act 1926).

Birth is originally indexed as Edward L PARRY in 1929 (11b p425), then was re-registered in Q3 1945 and indexed as JONES (11b p202), with a handwritten entry added to the appropriate 1929 index page (for JONES) referring to the re-registration in S 45 ( i.e. the Sep Quarter of 1945).

The S in the handwritten entry (for S 45) has been mis-transcribed on FreeBMD as a D.

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The Common Room / Re: Death Certificate
« on: Sunday 07 April 24 17:26 BST (UK)  »
Although it can cover a number of circumstances that particular qualification is often used to allow a cohabiting partner to register a death.

The address being the same as the deceased would suggest it may apply in this case.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Have index numbers for record but shows as No Matching Results Found on GRO
« on: Saturday 06 April 24 10:28 BST (UK)  »
Because of the different indexing rules used , it is quite common , and normal, to find differences between the index on FreeBMD and that on GRO.

The first thing to check is whether other entries on the same page (7a 144) are in the GRO index  - and in this case they are, so it isn't a case where the whole page has been missed during the digitisation process, which is seen as an issue sometimes -  it could just be that one entry was missed, but that is unusual.

The most likely explanation is that the entry has been transcribed and indexed in a different name, or name variation, but because of the way the GRO search engine is locked down they can be very difficult to find.

But I can't find him.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help with letters
« on: Friday 29 March 24 23:24 GMT (UK)  »
Able Seaman (AB)

Merchant Marine (MM)

......probably

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The Common Room / Re: Adoption
« on: Friday 29 March 24 15:22 GMT (UK)  »
Yes you can order it (anyone can). An adoption doesn't change access to the original record.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Birth certificate
« on: Thursday 28 March 24 11:22 GMT (UK)  »
If it's a paper certificate you want it can be quicker to order from the local registration office, most have on-line ordering or by phone. You won't need a reference at all ( other than his details).

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