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Europe / Harri Langer_Berlin
« on: Thursday 12 July 12 15:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I'm searching for a Harri Langer
-- believed to be born about 1931 in Berlin,
---died young in 1960 (married a year or two before he died) in East Berlin before the Berlin Wall went up.

Thanks, Julie




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Travelling People / Re: HARRIS, SHERRATT, East Anglia
« on: Thursday 19 April 12 14:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I am an Australian descended from the Gray family of Gamlingay Cambridgeshire: Zachariah Gray and his son George Paine Gray.
George Paine Gray emigrated to Emerald Hill (South Melbourne), Victoria. His daughter Jessie Ballantyne Gray is my great grandmother. Other Gray relatives (nephew?) migrated and set up in rural Warragul area, Victoria.

I gather from this chat that the Grays were of gypsy line. Does that include all the local Grays? If so, can anyone tell me where to find research into the gypsies of this area?

Regards,
Julie



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Tyrone / Re: Marriage and birth lookups Tyrone
« on: Monday 16 May 11 09:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi Silky,

I may have found your Ann Walker & Thomas Daley in a search of Australian convict and gaol records. If they are the right people, Ann came on a ship called "Edward" and Thomas on a ship called "Mangles". The trial was in 1827 but they were transported later. It appears Thomas may have gone to jail after his transportation sentence was completed but I may have misunderstood the documents.

If still interested let me know and I'll organise to send some by email attachment. It may be worth following up at a local Australian library where they have family history facilities, including subscription to Ancestry.com so you can search for free.

Cheers,
Julie

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Monaghan / Re: Margaret Seymour
« on: Friday 25 March 11 00:17 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Hallmark,

It took me awhile to get the name, Clontyfallow, because of missing letter _  and Google didn't recognise it! The name didn't spring to mind, but that's not surprising because I know so little about John. Clontyfallow is in the general vicinity of where his son was born and his age at death seems to fit other dates. However, the date of death is after "Sea" passenger listing recorded him as dead. Nevertheless I should keep an open mind in case that record was incorrect.


Thank you again.

Regards,
Julie

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Monaghan / Re: Margaret Seymour
« on: Monday 21 March 11 13:40 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks 'Hallmark', your comments about flax farmers/linen weavers clarifies that side of things as does C.O.I.

The ship records are written in that lovely old script that can be difficult to read. On close inspection of what I thought at first to be 'Omagh' (creating some considerable confusion), I now think it may be 'Dunagh' since this appears in other family records... now spelled 'Donagh'?   

I wonder if William is James' brother. The name has been carried through in that case. However, I am baffled by the death date, 1868, since ship record states James' parents as 'both dead'. I know records can be incorrect for any number of reasons but was not expecting it. I suppose they relied on passenger declarations. This then raises questions about why such declarations may have been incorrect. Or may it have been a slack way of completing records if information was not gathered at the time? Or is this monument simply for a different John Walker?

Thank you for more leads to follow, and a monument photo if this is the same John Walker :)
We may have connections here, at the gggg grandparent level for both of us if your ggg gran was Margaret's aunt.

Cheers,
Julie



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Monaghan / Re: Margaret Seymour
« on: Friday 18 March 11 04:53 GMT (UK)  »
I just checked back over James WALKER's NSW Death Certificate (informant was second youngest son, Robert) for father's occupation. It states "Weaver", whereas the Irish Civil Marriage Certificate states "Farmer".

Could this mean John both farmed flax and wove linen? Or could it mean Robert got his wires crossed in recall of family history, possibly John's father rather than John? Does anyone have a sound understanding of social history in regard to the linen industry of 1700-1800s?

Julie

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Monaghan / Re: Margaret Seymour
« on: Friday 18 March 11 04:37 GMT (UK)  »
 :D  Thank you both so much. I was very excited to get answers.

'Hallmark', thanks to you, now I have a birth date for Margaret, a specific dwelling place, as well as birth years for her two children born in Ireland and her mother's burial in a Presbyterian church.

Margaret had five sons in Jamberoo, NSW. The eldest was also called John, which I find a bit weird. The family became very successful dairy farmers; and sons and grandsons also successful in professions such as teaching (Senior Inspector of Schools), law & medicine.

I found a Civil Marriage Certificate extract for Margaret SEYMOUR and James WALKER,  in Parish/District of Dungannon, Co Tyrone.  The address for both is given as Aughnacloy. [James was born in Aughnacloy to John WALKER and Isabelle (Bell) IRVINE according to his Death Certificate.] Both fathers  are recorded as being farmers. At the bottom of the certificate is typed: "Aughnacloy or Carnteel Parish C.O.I." I'm not sure why this is different from the top where it states "Dungannon". I also don't know what C.O.I. means.

The ship's records state for both of them that parents were "both dead". This explains not finding Harper in later indexes; however there may be relatives such as surviving uncles and brothers. There are some more SEYMOUR  listings under Co Monaghan.  'Hallmark' has indicated a link between the two counties for this family.

Also, the ship's records stated Margaret's Native Place and County as "Omagh - Co.Monaghan", which is why I thought she was born in Omagh. Her death certificate only mentions county. I suppose she may have been born in one place and moved somewhere else she identified as 'native place'. It just goes to show you can't always trust the records and must cross reference and think laterally.

There is a John and a James WALKER in Co Tyrone on the Flax Growers Index in late 1700s. I suspect, but will not assume, they are related to Margaret's James.

I was interested in Jane's burial in a Presbyterian church. I have been assuming C. of Ireland/England. Oh yes, assumptions again. lol.

Once again thank you both for your help  :) It is a fascinating meander back in time.

Cheers,
Julie

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Monaghan / Margaret Seymour
« on: Thursday 17 March 11 00:05 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

I am looking for birth details of Margaret Seymour, needlewoman, who married James Walker, farm labourer of Co.Tyrone, in 1845 (Registration District Clogher) and emigrated around 1848, settling in Jamberoo NSW. This month, I found their monuments in the Cof E section of the local cemetery.

On her NSW Death Certificate her parents are reported as being Harper and Jane Seymour, farmers.

From dates on her marriage and death certificates, she was born in Omagh in early 1800s. I wish to find dates and, hopefully, discover her mother's maiden name.

I would also like to find reference to Harper Seymour. I have checked some indexes for the Monaghan region online but have drawn a blank.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Julie

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Armed Forces / Re: 32nd Regiment of Foot 1815
« on: Sunday 05 September 10 15:07 BST (UK)  »
What a great bit of detective work you've both done! A pleasure to read and very instructive about the lateral thinking we need with this kind of research :)

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