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Hi,

David Williams, Gentleman, of Brecon made a Will in 1704. It is on-line at the Library of Wales Wills.

It refers to friend Edward Hughes and father John Williams. His wife Jane was pregnant and he had three young children: William. David and Catherin.

He may be the David Williams of Battle who was related to the Williams family of Bailey Brith in Merthyr Cynog.  David may have been a brother of Henry Williams of Bailey Brith who died in 1672

I have tried to identify John Williams, the father of this David Williams.

 He might have belonged to the family of Daniel Williams of Penpont (who died in 1707).

This is because in 1705 Daniel Williams of Penpont refused to be a Bondsman for the estate of a John Williams of Penpont Gent. who died intestate.

Thanks to deciphering by Bookbox, I have the following: 

May 1704
Daniel Williams, esquire, the natural and lawful father/brother (the Latin is illegible) and next blood relative of John Williams of Penpont, gentleman, who died intestate, has appeared personally and of his own volition has renounced and utterly rejected letters of administration for John’s estate.

Subsequently on the same Bond:

26 May 1705
Let there be administration of the goods, rights and credits of John Williams, gentleman, deceased, to Catherine Games, spinster, aunt and next relative of the said deceased, upon the renunciation of Daniel Williams, esquire, the natural and lawful father of the same deceased ...

ADDED - The implication, then, is that John died young, survived by his father Daniel and by his aunt (the Latin here is avuncula, usually meaning ‘maternal aunt’).

David Williams of Battle, adult in 1670 (in another Bond) seems too old to have such a young family.

But I can't find any other reference to the John Williams of Penpont who had Daniel Williams as Brother/Father and an aunt Catherine Games.

And that is odd for such a well-documented family as the Williams's of Penpont, Breconshire..

Any help will be gratefully appreciated!

Thanks!

Llanfi   :) :) :) :) :) :)
 

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin Codicil 1705
« on: Tuesday 12 October 21 22:59 BST (UK)  »
Hello Bookbox!

Wonderful!!

Many many thanks!

Llanfi  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin Codicil 1705
« on: Tuesday 12 October 21 18:43 BST (UK)  »
Thanks again Bookbox!

Here is a bit more of the Bond, that might help... I think it is the original codicil.

Best regards!

Llanfi  :) :) :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Latin Codicil 1705
« on: Tuesday 12 October 21 06:25 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
Another Latin script in a 1705 Bond..

I think it says that Daniel Williams is the father and closest relative of Thomas Williams deceased.

Or maybe brother?

I would like to know...

Thanks!

Llanfi  :) :) :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Bond in Latin 1680 Please Help!
« on: Wednesday 06 October 21 21:54 BST (UK)  »
Hello Bookbox

Thanks for your help!

Yeas, I think that satisfies my requirements. The will is interesting because Hugh Beavan may have been a relative, Pugh is (of course) a patronymic of ap Hugh.

The recantation document and the Will are interesting in that they even altered his Will after recantation!

All the best!

Llanfi  :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Bond in Latin 1680 Please Help!
« on: Wednesday 06 October 21 06:48 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I have a copy of a Bond relating to the recantation of Hugh Beavan of Battle Breconshire from his Catholic Faith in 1680 It is annexed to his Will of the same date. It is on-line at the Library of Wales Wills.

FindMyPast has an Edward Hugh as one of the Bondsmen in a typed transcript of the parties to this Will.

I can't find this Edward Hugh except for a possibility in the attached document underlined in red.

I would like to know if it refers to a Edwardii Hugh, abbreviated to Edwi Hugh.

Also the gist of the document if possible.

Thanks!

Llanfi  :) :) :) :) :)


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Hello GR2

That's it!!

Thanks!

Llanfi  :) :) :) :)

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Hi,

Please see the attached record of a Thomas Madocke marrying a Jane Lewis (I think!)

I would really like to decipher this entry properly. It is in the records of Talachddu Parish 1624

Many thanks!

Llanfi  :) :) :) :) :) :) :)


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Mixture of "h"s in a 1639 Will
« on: Wednesday 22 September 21 23:53 BST (UK)  »
Hello Vance Mead

Yes, I think that's right!

The "h" in John is the same as the "h" in Hugh

The rest is clear now that you have deciphered it!

Best regards
Llanfi  :) :) :) :) :) :)

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