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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: William Coutts: Dundee, 1800s
« on: Friday 09 November 18 10:19 GMT (UK)  »
I was responding to Jim Heubner's post regarding relationship with David Coutts/Alexander Coutts/Isobel Leith.  They are part of my family line and as far as I know not related to the Canadian Coutts.

Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: William Coutts: Dundee, 1800s
« on: Thursday 08 November 18 18:53 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry for the delay in replying, Jim, I have only just seen this post.
I don't think Charlotte is related to David Coutts.  The name Charlotte doesn't appear in any other family records.   I had a look on Scotland's People and the only Charlotte Coutts I can find around the 1830s are Charlotte baptised in New Deer (Aberdeen) in 1836, daughter of John Coutts and Margaret Innes, and Charlotte married in New Deer in 1839 to Alex Milne.

Midlothian / Re: Blair or Lyall, Inveresk 1800-1830
« on: Saturday 22 September 18 11:42 BST (UK)  »
More information on this.
George Blair had a son George baptised in 1808, so it is quite possible that the George, a tailor, who married Marion Goodall and died in 1834 is the son, rather than the father.  I know the death in 1834 is the one who married Marion Goodall, as she remarried Alexander Gillespie and two of her Blair children lived with her in 1841.

I note that most baptisms of George Blair's children between 1800 and 1816 have witnesses Thomas Blair and Peter Lyall.The only Thomas Blair I can find in Inveresk is Thomas who married Marion Fairly in 1896.  This suggests he may be a brother of George.  If so, I believe his father may be Charles Blair, who married Katherine Simpson in 1869.  However, there is no apparent baptism of George in Charles's family and, apart from Thomas, other childrens' names (Robert and Christian) are not repeated in George's family.  All this assumes that the Blairs all lived in Inveresk, as it becomes very complex if I look wider!

Midlothian / Re: Blair or Lyall, Inveresk 1800-1830
« on: Friday 21 September 18 16:24 BST (UK)  »
Unfortunately not.  Just says George Blair, Tailor.  The burial in 1834 of George Blair, tailor, does not give age but I was speculating that if he died in 1834 he might be getting on in age and old enough to have married twice.  Does anyone have any access to monumental inscriptions for Inveresk, which might mention other family members?

Midlothian / Blair or Lyall, Inveresk 1800-1830
« on: Friday 21 September 18 16:05 BST (UK)  »
I am researching Peter Blair, baptised 20 May 1806 at Musselburgh.  Record shows father to be George Blair and mother Margaret Lyall.  I  can not get further back than this as I can't find George or Margaret's birth or marriage.

They had children up to 1813.  I have found a marriage of George Lyall, Tailor, in Inveresk in 1828.  Spouse Marion Goodall.  Children: Thomas 1829, Rose Hill 1831 and Helen Thomson 1832.  Sponsor for one baptism was Robert Lyall.  George's death is recorded in 1834.

I am wondering if the George who married Margaret Lyall is the same one who married Marion Goodall.  However, I can not find any record of death of Margaret.

Any help or suggestions would be welcome.

Argyllshire / Re: Christina Littleson - Killean
« on: Thursday 15 February 18 19:03 GMT (UK)  »
Forgot to mention, there is an Archibald Littleson shown on later censuses, born Killean about 1825, so I wonder if this is a brother, named after father.

Argyllshire / Christina Littleson - Killean
« on: Thursday 15 February 18 17:13 GMT (UK)  »
I am searching for Christina Littleson and/or her family from around 1820 in Killean.

In 1851, she was a servant with George Lyall in Paisley.  Census said she was aged 30 and place of birth was indistinct, but was Argyll, K......  I am guessing Killean as there are other Littleson records there.  In 1841, she was a servant in Lochwinnoch.

She emigrated to Canada and in 1881 was living with George Lyall, aged 28.  George had married in 1878 in Canada and his parents were shown as George Lyall and Christina Lyall.  She died in 1886 in USA and death record gives her name as Christina Lyall (Littleson) born 1819.  It also gives her parents as Archibald Littleson and Mary.  Archibald said to come from Lebanon, Maine, but I have searched for Littlesons there and no trace of anyone of that name.

There is no baptism record for George Lyall in 1853 but DoB in naturalisation papers is 11 December 1853.  There is no marriage record for Christina Littleson and George Lyall senior and I suspect they never married (George senior died in December 1854).

I can not find Christina or her son George (who would be 7-8 yrs) in the 1861 census, nor any record of their immigration to Canada or USA.  In short - a substantial brick wall.  If anyone has any ideas, or more information, I would be very grateful.

Perthshire / Re: Whittet Kinnaird 1700-1750
« on: Sunday 28 January 18 09:06 GMT (UK)  »
I have found baptisms back to 1705, but that would mean Thomas was 42 when he married Margaret Wighton.  A first marriage at that age is not impossible, but fairly unlikely.  I haven't found an earlier marriage of Thomas, so I am thinking that the baptisms in 1705 and 1716 are probably not the Thomas I am looking for. 

The 1705 one was son of John, but none of his siblings names occur in Thomas and Margaret's children. The 1716 Thomas was son of Robert and, of his siblings, only Patrick and Agnes occur in Thomas and Margaret's children.

Perthshire / Whittet Kinnaird 1700-1750
« on: Thursday 25 January 18 09:55 GMT (UK)  »
I am researching my Whittet family and have reached a brick wall with my 6xg grandfather Thomas Whittet, who married Margaret Wighton in Kinnaird in 1747.  Just to confuse the matter, he was married as "Whitehead" and all but one of their children were baptised as such.  However, I have not found any Whiteheads that link with this family and I believe Whittet (or variations) to be the correct name.  I have checked this theory with Perthshire archives and they concur.

Looking for possible baptisms of Thomas Whittet or Whitehead between 1700 and 1730, I can only find in Kinnaird: son of John 1705 (seems a bit early unless he married twice), son of James 1716 (no other James's in my Whittet line).  In addition, there is a Charles Thomas, son of Thomas, in Redgorton. 

Thomas and Margaret's children were baptised in Abernyte: John 1749, Patrick 1751, Alexander 1756, twins George and Agnes 1760 (both died), all baptised Whitehead, and George 1765 baptised Whittet.  Looking at conventional naming patterns doesn't seem to help, as his wife's father was called John and there were Alexanders and Patricks in the Wighton side.

There is a burial at Abernyte in 1776 of Thomas Whittet of Balairdy, but no age is given.

My 5x grandfather, Patrick/Peter Whittet, called his children John, Robert, William, Francis and Thomas (in that order).  It may be relevant that, almost concurrently with these baptisms in Abernyte, there were several for children of Francis Whittet: John, Jo, James, Margaret, Peter and William.

If anyone has any information on this family, or ideas on other avenues to search, I would be most grateful.

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