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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Death Certificates
« on: Saturday 17 September 11 11:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your responses. I'll have to send off for the certs to see what I can find out.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Death Certificates
« on: Wednesday 14 September 11 14:41 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much MargP. That's very helpful. Carms
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Death Certificates
« on: Wednesday 14 September 11 13:14 BST (UK) »
Her name was Maria Theresa Constance Freeth (nee Milentz) and she died in 1847 in St Pancras, London. Sorry, it's 3 christian names, not four (I counted the surname). Thanks
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Family History Beginners Board / Death Certificates
« on: Wednesday 14 September 11 12:39 BST (UK) »
Can anyone tell me why a death would be registered twice. I have an ancestor whose death was registered in the Jan/Feb/March quarter and then again in the April/May/June quarter of the same year. I haven't sent for the DC yet. Which one should I go for. I know it is the same person because she had four chirstian names and all four are the same in both cases. Any help would be appreciated.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Just getting started
« on: Tuesday 23 August 11 11:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that bearkat. I've bookmarked it. By the way, got my relationship with Daniel and Mary wrong. They are my 2great-grandparents. My great-gramother was Johanna. Apologies for that.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Just getting started
« on: Tuesday 23 August 11 10:55 BST (UK) »
Johanna married a James Albert Spratt on 9th May 1885. Due to a long story, her husband changed his surname to Minturn (to escape authority again). It was his mother's maiden name. In the 1891 census her brother Daniel is living with them in 3, Milton Terrace, Swanscombe. Incidentally, the second witness at Johanna's wedding was a Margaret Whitehead. I wondered if this might be her eldest sister who was born the year after Jeremiah. Does the surname Whitehead mean anything to you? It looks as though we are distant cousins. Daniel and Mary are my great-grandparents and your 2great grandparents, so I think we are something like third cousins once removed seeing as we are a different generation.
By the way Ruskie, thanks for the info re the O' in Irish names. It simply says Shea on the MC in 1853 for both Daniel and his father Cornelius.
By the way Ruskie, thanks for the info re the O' in Irish names. It simply says Shea on the MC in 1853 for both Daniel and his father Cornelius.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Just getting started
« on: Monday 22 August 11 17:07 BST (UK) »
I got a copy of the MC for Daniel and Mary and I'm pretty sure it's them. According to the MC they got married in Virginia Street Chapel (Catholic Church), Stepney on fourth (or possibly tenth - difficult to read writing) of July 1853. He was 26 years old and gives his father's name as Cornelius. She was 24 years old and gives her father's name as Jeremiah Murphy. Neither of them wrote their name - both making their mark. Witnesses were a Julia Murphy and a Samuel 'Tarrigint???' I found his second MC first because on the 1901 census they have a James E Foy living with them so I surmised that she too had been married before and was probably a Foy. I then searched for Daniel Shea and Rachel Foy in the MCs and found them. They got married on 28 August 1887 in Northfleet parish church. His name is mis-spelt as Shay but he gives his father's name as Cornelius. He gives his age as 60 in 1887 which corresponds to other information. It is because he gives the name Cornelius on both MCs that I believe it is him. I have to close down now as am going out. Let me know if you find the Irish connection. Regards, Carms187
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Family History Beginners Board / Daniel Shea
« on: Monday 22 August 11 15:54 BST (UK) »
LukePOShea. I am unable to respond to your message so am posting this. My great-grandmother, Johanna Shea (not O'Shea) was the daughter of Daniel Shea and Mary Murphy. She had a brother called Thomas who was a witness at her wedding. He lived at 2, Bloomfield Road, Swanscombe. I believe that Daniel and Mary married on 4th July 1853 in Stepney but cannot trace either of them back further because Irish records are notorious for their absence. The height of the Irish potatoe famine was around 1850 so they must have emigrated to England at that time. Their first son was Jeremiah Shea born in 1855 in Kent and who was the informant for his father's death in the Dartford Union Workhouse on 21st March 1908. Mary must have died between the 1881 and 1891 census because Daniel has re-married to a Rachael Foy by 1891. Their marriage certificate gives Daniel's father's name as Cornelius. Mary Murphy's father's name was Jeremiah (the same as her firstborn son). I was told by my father that they came from the Cork area of Ireland but I have no further information I'm afraid. I do have a photo of my great-grandmother Johanna but cannot send it via RootsChat. Regards, Carms187
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Just getting started
« on: Sunday 31 October 10 10:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Luke. Just spotted this chat. The Daniel Shea in Swanscome is my great-great-grandfather. He was married to Mary Murphy. Their daughter Johanna is my great-grandmother and I have a copy of her birth certificate. If the Swanscombe Daniel Shea is the one you are looking for - I'd love to know if you have an early information on them as I have been unable to trace them back any further.
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