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Australia / Re: Gordon Sandeman and Ernestine - mystery of defaced gravestone
« on: Sunday 10 October 21 07:19 BST (UK)  »
OOh, interesting. It appears there was no coroner's inquest, but I guess that doesn't mean anything. The article suggested she'd been ill for a while.

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Australia / Re: Gordon Sandeman and Ernestine - mystery of defaced gravestone
« on: Sunday 10 October 21 03:28 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the info about the article TreeSpirit.

Yes, Jennaya. It's mysterious, isn't it? It's really got me hooked. I agree about the defacing. It looks very purposeful, not just a fit of rage. I also think the wording on the gravestone suggests it was organised by Ernestine's family (perhaps her brother Oscar?). For a married woman, it's unusual she's described first as a daughter rather than a wife.

We can only speculate about their marriage. Gordon and Ernestine did not have any children, and it seems she died of natural causes.

** She had accompanied her husband to Sydney for change of air, and was returning to Queensland almost convalescent, when she was suddenly seized with a violent spasmodic attack, proceeding from arrested digestion, which terminated fatally.**

On the other hand, can you imagine, after marrying at 29, Ernestine came to Australia and probably lived a tough life in remote parts of Queensland? Gordon travelled Brisbane - Sydney on 21 Dec 1861 (on his way to London?) and they married in London on 3 April 1862 so it was clearly a whirlwind romance! He must have gone straight from the dock to the church!

It seems the mystery continues.

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Australia / Re: Gordon Sandeman and Ernestine - mystery of defaced gravestone
« on: Saturday 09 October 21 11:13 BST (UK)  »
Thanks again. I'll try and track it down.

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Australia / Re: Gordon Sandeman and Ernestine - mystery of defaced gravestone
« on: Saturday 09 October 21 07:45 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much. The Courier-Mail is subscription only. Are you able to tell me the date of the article and something of what it contains? It would be much appreciated.

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Australia / Gordon Sandeman and Ernestine - mystery of defaced gravestone
« on: Saturday 09 October 21 06:23 BST (UK)  »
I'd appreciate help to solve a mystery.

I’m very curious about a headstone (photo attached) in Camperdown Cemetery (St Stephens, Newton, NSW) and would love to find out why the headstone was defaced. From a newspaper article (SMH 13 July 1946) I know it had been defaced by then, but I have no idea when it happened.

What would have prompted somebody to erase the name of Ernestine’s husband, Gordon Sandeman?

Apart from being declared bankrupt (the 1880s), expelled from parliament for frequent absences and being involved in unsavoury labour practices, I can’t find any reason to remove his name from Ernestine’s gravestone.

Here’s a bit of what I’ve discovered about Gordon and Ernestine:

Ernestine Caroline Susette Eugenie de Satge-St Jean
B: 1833, Switzerland
Father: Vicomte Ernest Valentine de Satge-St Jean
Mother: Caroline Sparkes
M: Gordon Sandeman, 3 April 1952, London
Arrived Sydney 1862 and lived in Queensland
D: Sydney, 1864

Gordon Sandeman
B: 1819, Edinburgh
Father: Edward Sandeman
Mother: Letitia May Gordon
D: London, 1897

Came to Australia (NSW) in 1838 as a merchant but the business failed.
Lived in Queensland
Squatter/pastoralist – bought a station in 1844 in the Morton Bay District and expanded to become a large landholder.
Member of NSW parliament (Qld was then part of the NSW colony) in 1856 as well a member of the Queensland Legislative Assembly for Leichhardt from 1863 to 1870.

Gordon was a friend of Ernestine’s brother, Oscar who was also a squatter and politician, so it seems that's how Gordon and Ernestine met.
Involved in bringing slave/indentured labour to Australia from China, India and the Pacific (Kanakas).

He returned to England by 1887 and remained until his death in 1897.

Any suggestions as to how to solve this mystery would be very much appreciated. Tx


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Australia / Nursing records in Western Australia
« on: Sunday 21 March 21 06:42 GMT (UK)  »
I'd like to piece together the nursing history of my aunt (still living) who was nursing in WA (all in public hospitals and Dept of Health) from the 1940s till the 1990s.

I'm interested to know if it's possible to get information about her various postings. Unfortunately, she has dementia and is unable to help, and as I'm living outside WA, I'm looking for an online source.

Thanks in advance.

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Australia / Re: Bridget Margaret (Bea) CASHMAN of Bathurst and Sydney
« on: Friday 15 January 21 04:52 GMT (UK)  »
That is interesting maddys52. The J Cashman could have been Bea's father.

I wonder if Bea and Frank were more than friends? It's always good to speculate!

Cheers and thanks for your help.

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Australia / Re: Bridget Margaret (Bea) CASHMAN of Bathurst and Sydney
« on: Thursday 14 January 21 06:04 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks again everyone. You have managed to unearth some interesting articles. Can't imagine why they didn't appear in my Trove searches!  I think I have just about as much as I need to know about Bea for my purposes. Thanks so much.

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Australia / Bridget Margaret (Bea) CASHMAN of Bathurst and Sydney
« on: Thursday 14 January 21 01:59 GMT (UK)  »
I'm interested in info about Bridget Margaret (Bea) Cashman born in 1880 in Bathurst to James Richard Cashman and Ellen Elizabeth Clark.

Her name is on the title of a property I'm researching at 98 Albion St, Annandale (NSW) in 1924. Was she the real owner or was the title in her name for some reason?

James (worked for Railways) and Ellen lived in Bathurst until they moved to Sydney around 1917, living in the Annandale house when it was purchased in 1924.

Bea died at the residence in 1944 and is buried at Rookwood. It seems she never married.

I haven't been able to definitively identify her in any electoral roles or other sources and would appreciate any info others might have about where she lived and worked.

Thanks and regards

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