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The Lighter Side / Re: The Commandments of Genealogy
« on: Monday 20 September 21 20:26 BST (UK)  »
Thou shalt live in a very small village and be named John Smith but there shalt be at least two other John Smith's in this small village and their children and wives shalt share the same names as your own children and wife.  Wherever possible the other two John Smith's must have been born in the same year as yourself and the children and wife must also share the same birth years.

Thou shalt disappear at the time of the 1861 census along with all other male members of your family (even though the other male members of the family are married and living elsewhere) but all re-appear for the 1871 census.

Thou shalt take the surname of your step-father for ONE CENSUS ONLY but revert to your original surname in all other documents.  This must be the first census after moving away from your family home.

Thou shalt report in the 1841 census that you were born in 'Kent' but then disappear with no trace before the 1851 census.


The Stay Safe Board / Re: Anti-vaxxers' arguments
« on: Friday 13 August 21 15:37 BST (UK)  »
Could someone please explain to me how some anti-vaxxers can claim that ' all vaccinated people will be dead in three years'.

How can they possibly accept this when three years ago nobody had even heard of Covid let alone a vaccine for it.


Essex / Re: Where did all the Hammonds go in 1841?
« on: Friday 13 August 21 14:45 BST (UK)  »
I haven't got back that far with my Hammond line so, sorry, can't say on that one.


Essex / Re: Where did all the Hammonds go in 1841?
« on: Thursday 12 August 21 20:06 BST (UK)  »
Are your Hammonds any relation to the Hammonds in Albury, Herts one of the daughters married a Thomas Houghton and settled in Little Hallingbury- they were ag labs and farmers x

There is a good chance they were the same family.  Which daughter and what year would this be?  Some of my Hammonds ended up with Albury and the surrounding areas.


Apparently the deaths have increased due to the increase in infection rates a couple of weeks ago.  It is now expected that the death rates will start to fall again.


Essex / Re: Where did all the Hammonds go in 1841?
« on: Thursday 01 July 21 08:30 BST (UK)  »
1841 Census was in June so itís extremely feasible that as Agricultural Labours that they could be moving around for seasonal work.


Yes, agreed but you would still expect to find at least one of the four.

Was anything happening historically c1841?  I ask because I have a very similar situation in Sussex, two brothers and their brother in law are also all missing from home, wives and children are all enumerated as expected.  Iím inclined to think theyíre drunk under the table at the nearby beer house  ;D

That's funny - I thought the same thing with the Hammonds.  ;D ;D ;D


Essex / Re: Where did all the Hammonds go in 1841?
« on: Wednesday 30 June 21 13:53 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Rena.  I am wondering if this is what happened to all of them.  I have tried everything to find them but without success so think they may have been living rough.  The family were very poor by the sounds of things so anything is possible if they want to find work.


Essex / Re: Where did all the Hammonds go in 1841?
« on: Wednesday 30 June 21 08:31 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for all your replies.

Nic - thank you for that information.  That is very interesting - I will look into that.

Stanwix - I'm not sure this would be the case because they were not living together at the time.  They all had their own families but they did live very close to each other.  Thank you for your thoughts.

Rena - Thank you for this.  That is very interesting.  However, they all reappeared in 1851 and the families of the men can be found in 1841 so it appears a short-term problem, whatever it was.  Thank you for the information regarding Manuden.


Essex / Where did all the Hammonds go in 1841?
« on: Tuesday 29 June 21 18:08 BST (UK)  »
I have four Hammonds in Manuden that are all missing at the 1841 census.  These are father and his sons.  They are all Ag Labs and the wives and children can all be found in 1841 but not the men.  Does anyone have any idea where they may have been?  I am thinking they must have been away working somewhere - but where?

They are:
James Hammond - born 1786
Joseph Hammond - born 1809
David Hammond - born 1814
James Hammond - born 1821

Some sons are shown in Manuden in the 1841 census with their families.

Any thoughts would be appreciated

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