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United States of America / Re: JOSEPH EUGENE PLANT
« on: Sunday 29 March 15 14:49 BST (UK)  »
Hello, are you pointing out the previous query I sent?  I didn't know how to refresh it and send it out again, hoping someone would notice it who didn't before, if that makes sense.
Sorry if I am making a mess of this.   Thombenn

Topics on same person merged ~moderator

United States of America / Re: JOSEPH EUGENE PLANT
« on: Sunday 29 March 15 14:09 BST (UK)  »
i have contacted RootsChat before about this chap.  Would love to hear from any of his nieces/nephews from his marriage to Elizabeth.  He was born in Dublin, lived in NY City and moved to Florida 1970, dying there in 1980, last address Hibiscus Ave South Pasadena.

He worked for the United Fruit Company as a ship's steward.  He was a member of the St John's Catholic Church.

I also would like to trace his marriage to Elizabeth (2nd marriage) it would have been after 1947 and probably before he moved to Florida.  Seen a photo on his naturalization papers.  Any more would be great.

Any help out there please?  Most grateful

Lancashire / Re: Osfield/Horsfield/Orsfield TURNER b.1872
« on: Tuesday 03 March 15 16:01 GMT (UK)  »
I have been in touch with Helen Turner Morley before, we corresponded a few times and she was going to get back to me with photos and information but didn't, so gave up.

Lancashire / Re: Horsfield Turner born around 1875 in Oldham
« on: Monday 02 March 15 20:25 GMT (UK)  »
As for when Frank died, my dad thought he was living around the Leigh area once.  That is in Lancashire near to Wigan.

Lancashire / Re: Horsfield Turner born around 1875 in Oldham
« on: Monday 02 March 15 20:24 GMT (UK)  »
At the time when Horsfield told his son he was leaving the mother (Elizabeth) Frank and my grandfather were working at Monton (Salford) and not sure if Horsfield was working with them (labouring I think).  They were waiting for the train to take them home to Shaw or thereabouts. I do know that at some stage Horsfield and Elizabeth did live in the Salford area, she ended up back in  Royton/Shaw area.  Whether he ever lived in Salford with her I don't know.

Apparently she bought him lots of equipment for roadworks and flagging which he seemed to do, all the stuff was later seen in her shed at her home in Royton.

Is this a mystery that can never be solved???   Of course, everyone is now dead apart from my brother who is 79 but he would have only been around 12 when Elizabeth died.  He visited her with my father and remembers my father asking if she had ever "heard from Uncle Horsfield" she replied that he knocked on her door once but she ignored him and he went away. (That's when she showed my dad all the equipment in the shed.  Now how true that is I don't know.  Perhaps as he got older he wanted to go back?

Lancashire / Re: Horsfield Turner born around 1875 in Oldham
« on: Monday 02 March 15 16:06 GMT (UK)  »
Horsfield (or Osfield or Orsfield (!) was baptised on 4 August 1872, the BMD for his birth states Registration Quarter June, July & August, so could have been end July or very beginning of August.  His father was Luke and his mother Mary.

His son Frank was baptised on 24 October 1900 and the BMD states October.

When his father "jumped ship" so to speak my grandfather was with them at the station and Frank threatened his father that if it wasn't for the fact that he WAS his father he would "kick him up and down the platform", that doesn't sound like someone who would do the same thing with his own wife (at least not then, so I think when he did leave her it was sometime later).

My brother (still living) used to visit the family home of  Frank and Rosie and remembered young Frank being a teenager, but he never mentioned the father being there so I assume he had gone by then leaving Rosie to bring Frank up alone with the help of my grandfather and family.

As for Horsfield, I know this to be fact, his wife was always going into businesses, chip shops etc and moving house and he got fed up with it all.  But, where did he get to, very intriguing.
I am 99% certain that there was no divorce with Horsfield and his wife, so one divorced in the family at that time and if they had it would have been known.

Lancashire / Re: Horsfield Turner born around 1875 in Royton (Oldham area)
« on: Monday 02 March 15 14:51 GMT (UK)  »
I think Frank senior (son of Horsfield)was a labourer.  I do know HIS son Frank Junior ended up Canada.

Horsfield appeared one day at a railway station in Salford and told his son, Frank, that he was leaving his mother, gave him his watch and that was the end of that, apparently never seen again. Bit of a mystery.  Perhaps he did change his first name (?).  His wife was one Elizabeth Thomas and his father was called Luke.   I can trace back but now forwards with him.  It is just frustrating that I can find no trace of him after he left the family.   When his wife died in 1950 it stated on the burial record that she was a "widow" so whether that was just presumed or she DID know he had died we'll never know, but can find you record of his death (under that name anyway).  Perhaps he left the area altogether and even ended up abroad.

Please try and find out for me, I am sure you are more skilled than me !!

Many thanks.

Lancashire / Horsfield Turner born around 1875 in Oldham
« on: Friday 27 February 15 16:31 GMT (UK)  »
Trying to find out what happened to his person, a great uncle through marriage.  He seemed just to disappear, cannot find any record of his death.

Any help would be appreciated.   

Radnorshire / Joseph Thomas
« on: Friday 27 February 15 16:24 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to trace the above who was born in or around 1840 in Radnorshire, possibly Glasbury? of thereabouts.  His father was William Thomas, a labourer.  Joseph was living in Shobdon at the time of his marriage and then settled for a while in Eyton and district.  His year of birth differs from census to census! When he was buried his age was given as 80 in 1920. He was buried in Oldham Lancashire.

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