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Antrim / Re: Rainey
« on: Sunday 07 April 19 02:18 BST (UK)  »
This link may help eliminate some of the possible Raineys. There were several Rainey marriages in the Hughes and McAuley descendants of my Ewing family of Coolsythe. One researcher has been documenting the Ewing families in wikitree. This link below is not the same link but another whose source I do not know.

https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Rainey-Descendants-1615

I suspect the William Rainey in the 1862 Griffiths list for Duneane could be the one this link refers to.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Andrew Colhoun Bishops St Londonderry
« on: Wednesday 06 March 19 19:01 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Mary

I have also since seen one record in FamilySearch for the 1863 marriage of Andrew Colhoun and Catherine Shields that confirms Andrews father was also Andrew.

However  I am not sure that the Samuel Colhoun who married Margery Roulston was the son of Andrew. It appears my DNA link was  not to the Colhoun side of the tree with that Samuel, and in that tree I think his father was James and mother ?Jane.

However I have since found minor links to a dozen trees with the Colhouns of Crosh House Co Tyrone.

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Donegal / Re: Colhouns of Donegal
« on: Saturday 16 February 19 10:20 GMT (UK)  »
Continued from 2011 post for Andrew Colhoun of Bishops St Londonderry.

I would now like to widen this topic to the family of Andrew Colhoun as recent DNA results show that Andrew Colhoun was probably a cousin of my gt grandfather William John Dougherty. The main suspect for the DNA match is William John Dougherty's mother whose name is not known.

I think Andrew Colhoun may have been the son of Andrew Colhoun of Corncannon(?) who the Londonderry Sentinal of 7 Feb 1865 said died

On the 3rd February (1865), at his residence, Corncammon, Mr. Andrew Colhoun, aged 85 years.

Can anyone tell me if this is close to or the same as Corncamble?

I also have a death notice for an Ann Colhoun who died 1867 and could have been the widow of this Andrew Colhoun:

December 22, at her son's residence, Tullyannan, Ann, relict of the late Mr. Andrew Colhoun, aged 79 years.


This is what I have so far. Andrew Colhoun born c1823 died 1881 and his wife Catherine nee Shiels did not have family of their own.

The Will of Andrew Colhoun late of Bishop-street Londonderry Publican and Grocer who died 17 February 1881 at same place was proved at Londonderry by Alexander M'Vicker of Shipquay-street and George Walker of Magazine-street both in Londonderry two of the Executors. (Former Grant 21 April 1881.) (Double Probate). Effects 3,000

Andrew listed his siblings in tis order:
 Samuel, John, Thomas, William, Ann, Jane and family of deceased sister Isabella, then lastly Hugh.

From the wording in Andrew's will I do not think Hugh was married or had any family.

Jane Colhoun b c 1826 married David Rutherford at Taughboyne on 15 Jun 1846. The record I can see in Ancestry does not name her father. I have several Rutherford DNA matches. Catherine Colhoun, widow of Andrew, died in 1894 and left a will.

To my nephew Henry Rutherford who now resides with me I bequeath and devise the house shop and premises as now in my occupation in Bishop Street in the said City of Londonderry together with all stock in the said shop, shop fixture and fittings, furniture in said house an all my interest and good will in the business as now carried on by me in the said premises. I also bequeath to the said Henry Rutherford the sum of three hundred pounds sterling.

I also have DNA matches to a descendent of a Wiliam Colhoun b c1820 ( who married Elizabeth Roulston) and I think to Samuel Colhoun (1817-1914) who married Margery Roulston. Potentially these are brothers of Andrew.

I checked the Griffiths valuations for Tullyannan and there was only one Colhoun listed there and that was Samuel Colhoun. I do not know if this is the same Samuel as above.

Lastly, I have also discovered a lesser DNA match to someone whose Colhoun Ancestor was the Jane Colhoun, daughter of William who

On the 16th ult., at the house of Mr. George Rodgers, of Killyverry, by the Rev. William Scott, Mr. Joseph Huston, of Killyverry, to Jane, eldest daughter of Mr. William Colhoun, of Drummany, near Letterkenny.

This brings me to another question about geography. There is another Andrew Colhoun who died 1865 and left a will

The Will (with one Codicil) of Andrew Colhoun late of Londonderry in the County of Londonderry Woollen-draper deceased who died 28 May 1865 at Moville in the County of Donegal was proved at Londonderry by the oaths of Thomas Miles Grover and Joseph Orr Merchant both of Londonderry aforesaid the Executors.

Andrew names a sister Jane who was married to Thomas Miles (in June 1838)

On the 5th inst., at Manorcunningham Church, by the Rev. Mr. Chapman, Mr. Thomas Miles, of this City, to Jane, eldest daughter of Mr. William Colhoun, of Lifford.

I was wondering how close Lifford was to Durmmanny but as both daughters were named Jane, I assume they are daughters of different Williams?

So I would appreciate input from anyone who can expand and connect the various Colhouns of Donegal with the siblings or parents of Andrew who died 1881.

I have not been able to positively identify the spouses of John, Thomas, Ann or Isabella.

Cheers

Linda.

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Donegal / Colhouns of Donegal
« on: Saturday 16 February 19 10:18 GMT (UK)  »
I had an old Post on the Derry site relating to Andrew Colhoun of Bishops St Londonderry, born c 1823 who died 1881.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=525124.msg6677829#msg6677829

I will copy my latest information and questions across to this site as my questions relate to more to Donegal than Derry.


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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Andrew Colhoun Bishops St Londonderry
« on: Saturday 16 February 19 02:38 GMT (UK)  »
I would now like to widen this topic to the family of Andrew Colhoun as recent DNA results show that Andrew Colhoun was probably a cousin of my gt grandfather William John Dougherty. The main suspect for the DNA match is William John Dougherty's mother whose name is not known.

I think Andrew Colhoun may have been the son of Andrew Colhoun of Corncannon(?) who the Londonderry Sentinal of 7 Feb 1865 said died

On the 3rd February (1865), at his residence, Corncammon, Mr. Andrew Colhoun, aged 85 years.

Can anyone tell me if this is close to or the same as Corncamble?

I also have a death notice for an Ann Colhoun who died 1867 and could have been the widow of this Andrew Colhoun:

December 22, at her son's residence, Tullyannan, Ann, relict of the late Mr. Andrew Colhoun, aged 79 years.


This is what I have so far. Andrew Colhoun born c1823 died 1881 and his wife Catherine nee Shiels did not have family of their own.

The Will of Andrew Colhoun late of Bishop-street Londonderry Publican and Grocer who died 17 February 1881 at same place was proved at Londonderry by Alexander M'Vicker of Shipquay-street and George Walker of Magazine-street both in Londonderry two of the Executors. (Former Grant 21 April 1881.) (Double Probate). Effects 3,000

Andrew listed his siblings in tis order:
 Samuel, John, Thomas, William, Ann, Jane and family of deceased sister Isabella, then lastly Hugh.

From the wording in Andrew's will I do not think Hugh was married or had any family.

Jane Colhoun b c 1826 married David Rutherford at Taughboyne on 15 Jun 1846. The record I can see in Ancestry does not name her father. I have several Rutherford DNA matches. Catherine Colhoun, widow of Andrew, died in 1894 and left a will.

To my nephew Henry Rutherford who now resides with me I bequeath and devise the house shop and premises as now in my occupation in Bishop Street in the said City of Londonderry together with all stock in the said shop, shop fixture and fittings, furniture in said house an all my interest and good will in the business as now carried on by me in the said premises. I also bequeath to the said Henry Rutherford the sum of three hundred pounds sterling.

I also have DNA matches to a descendent of a Wiliam Colhoun b c1820 ( who married Elizabeth Roulston) and I think to Samuel Colhoun (1817-1914) who married Margery Roulston. Potentially these are brothers of Andrew.

I checked the Griffiths valuations for Tullyannan and there was only one Colhoun listed there and that was Samuel Colhoun. I do not know if this is the same Samuel as above.

Lastly, I have also discovered a lesser DNA match to someone whose Colhoun Ancestor was the Jane Colhoun, daughter of William who

On the 16th ult., at the house of Mr. George Rodgers, of Killyverry, by the Rev. William Scott, Mr. Joseph Huston, of Killyverry, to Jane, eldest daughter of Mr. William Colhoun, of Drummany, near Letterkenny.

This brings me to another question about geography. There is another Andrew Colhoun who died 1865 and left a will

The Will (with one Codicil) of Andrew Colhoun late of Londonderry in the County of Londonderry Woollen-draper deceased who died 28 May 1865 at Moville in the County of Donegal was proved at Londonderry by the oaths of Thomas Miles Grover and Joseph Orr Merchant both of Londonderry aforesaid the Executors.

Andrew names a sister Jane who was married to Thomas Miles (in June 1838)

On the 5th inst., at Manorcunningham Church, by the Rev. Mr. Chapman, Mr. Thomas Miles, of this City, to Jane, eldest daughter of Mr. William Colhoun, of Lifford.

I was wondering how close Lifford was to Durmmanny but as both daughters were named Jane, I assume they are daughters of different Williams?

So I would appreciate input from anyone who can expand and connect the various Colhouns of Donegal with the siblings or parents of Andrew who died 1881.

I have not been able to positively identify the spouses of John, Thomas, Ann or Isabella.

Cheers

Linda.

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Antrim / Re: Andrew Lyster Graham b1928
« on: Saturday 16 February 19 00:51 GMT (UK)  »
Just for  those who want more details:

The baptisms of  children to John and Jane GRAHAM nee Lynn are: .

Born  Templepatrick       Templepatrick Presbyterian Church baptism
1.   William Lynn GRAHAM        baptised 12 APR 1858
Born Hungry Hall   1st Antrim Presbyt Church baptisms
2.   Sarah Jane GRAHAM      b 23 MAR 1860   bapt    1 APR 1860
3.   James    GRAHAM      b 1  JUN 1862      bapt    3 AUG 1862
4.   Mary Mina GRAHAM      b 23 JUN 1864      bapt    2 OCT 1864
5.   Joseph  GRAHAM       b 22 JAN 1867      bapt    28 APR 1867
6.   Hannah   GRAHAM      b  7 OCT 1869      bapt    21 DEC 1869
7.   Jemima   GRAHAM      b  9 MAY 1872      bapt  2 JUL 1872
8.   Henry   GRAHAM      b 22 JAN 1875 
Born Crosscannon
9.   Ezekiel Davis Wylie GRAHAM  b 26 MAY 1877    bapt    28 SEP 1877
10.   Jane Lynn Graham      b 31 Dec 1879      
11.   Maude GRAHAM      b 17 Apr 1882      (registered as Margaret Neill Graham)

School records show John and Jane were living at Crosscannon, Antrim, in 1886 when Henry, Ezekiel and Maud transferred from (to?) Bush School at Hungry Hall: (NB: The occupations shown is for their father)

Henry Graham    t/fer 22/3/1886   11yrs   Pres   Blacksmith
Ezekiel   "          "       9yrs    "      "
James*      "         12/9/1892    5yrs    "      ",  Antrim
Maud      "   t/fer 4/1/1892   8yrs    "   Blacksmith     

*James GRAHAM b c1887 is probably William Lynn Graham's oldest son. James aged 4 was born in Ireland but living with his parents in Barrow in Furness in 1891,  where their next son John was born in Sep-Dec 1891. If so then the family had moved back to Antrim by September 1892.

Cheers

Linda

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Antrim / Re: Andrew Lyster Graham b1928
« on: Saturday 16 February 19 00:37 GMT (UK)  »
HI BallyaltikillganG

It seems the hasty reply and thank you that I posted (via my tablet) yesterday before leaving for work did not make it. So thank you now.

In explanation, though I have been researching my Graham family since 1981, I have only now dipped my toes into the DNA paddling pool. Once of my unexplained but closest matches is to someone who has Andrew Lyster Graham and his parents (no dates) as the only names in their tree. I suspect this person is one of many who only have Ancestry membership for 6 months at the time they tested and are no longer reachable through that site. So I was hoping this forum might be another way to make contact.

Yes John Graham of Hungry Hall is the father of William Lynn Graham. Jane Lynn daughter of William Lynn and Jemima Courtney of Kilgreel, was William's mother. John Graham was the son of James Graham and Mary Wiley. I have certificated (obtained in the 1980s) for John Graham's birth and marriage and Jane Lynn's birth, and parents marriage.

John Graham of Hungry Hall and Crosskennon/Crosscannon was a blacksmith as were his sons. Said to be six in total but I have never found any evidence for a son John who is said to have emigrated to the USA. William Lynn Graham's son John did emigrate to the USA.

In 1982 my parents visited Ireland and nearly met Lily Graham (b1915) daughter of youngest son Ezekiel. However My father did start a correspondence with her and another Lily Graham b1908, granddaughter of William Lynn Graham.  One of the Lily's was the source for some of the infromation on William L Graham's family, including the information that William L Graham was buried at Templepatrick while his wife Isammenia and two sons, Lester and William were buried at Glenavey. Another son Thompson is buried in a Belfast City cemetery with his Uncle and Aunt, James Graham and Louisa nee Quigley. I don't think I know where James Henry Quigley Graham is buried.

Since my first post I have discovered that I share a DNA match with Andrew Lyster Grahams descendent and a descendent of John Courtney Lynn, brother of Jane, who emigated to NZ in the goldrush and became a water race proprieter in what is now the Otago Goldfields area.

So I am now sure that Andrew Lyster Graham belongs somewhere in my Graham family. I suspect his parents married after 1922 which is why I cannot find them in Irishgenealogy. I should look again in GRONI but it may be that they did not marry in Ireland.

Cheers

Linda Graham




 

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Antrim / Andrew Lyster Graham b1928
« on: Saturday 02 February 19 11:34 GMT (UK)  »
Does anyone have information on Andrew Lyster Graham born 1928 in Belfast; died 2000. Andrew's mother may have been a Robinson.

I am trying to find out if he was a nephew of my grandfather's cousin Alexander Lyster Graham (known as Lester) who was born 8 May 1899, son of William Lynn Graham and Issamenia Quigley.

I don't think Alexander Lyster Graham married so if Andrew Lyster Graham does belong in my family then he is probably the son of Lester's brother William.

Cheers

Linda

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Sligo / Re: Sligo 1832
« on: Friday 21 December 18 07:17 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

Yes Montiagh seems very likely and I think I have come across that location before in connection to someone in my tree.

Thank you and Merry Christmas.

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