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"Mean average": what means that?

Also of interest, perhaps, is the average age of the menarche (first menstruation):
figures from Germany give 16.1 in 1900, falling to 13.1 in 1960, with the steepest fall in the post-war years.  I don't know whether that average is the mean, mode, or median, but I rather dread to think how low it must be now if the trend has continued.

The average age of the menopause changed less, from 47 or 48 until the war, rising to somewhat over 49 by 1960.  I couldn't find later figures, or for earlier centuries.

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The Lighter Side / Re: Myths debunked when doing family histroy.
« on: Sunday 21 April 24 08:19 BST (UK)  »
The story handed down in our family was that the first Abbott ancestor in Ireland was a brother of Archbishop George Abbot, sent to Dublin as Master of the Rolls.  A cousin of my father was a professional genealogist in the days before the internet, so was familiar with archives and record offices.  She looked into it and found that nobody named Abbot or Abbott has ever held that office.  What she did find was John Abbott, brewer and steward to the Inns of Court (a master at rolling the barrels, perhaps).  I imagine his grandchildren were told “Grandpapa had something to do with the law courts”; John rose rapidly through the ranks with every retelling of the tale, until he held the highest legal office in the land!  Such is the stuff as trees are made on.

Rather more recently, and quite by chance, I came across an obituary of someone who had spent all his working life with the George Abbott brewery in Canterbury.  I don’t know when that was founded, but if it has been going for a couple of centuries it seems likely that John was a member of the same family and carried on the trade in Dublin.  From “brewer, of Canterbury” to “Archbishop of Canterbury” is but a small step for a determined myth-maker.

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The Common Room / Re: Herring Family Tree
« on: Saturday 20 April 24 18:22 BST (UK)  »
My Herrings are further back.  The Very Rev. William (1718 - 1774) was married in the chapel of Lambeth Palace on 26 June 1750 to Elizabeth Cotton.  Whose daughter was she, when and where born?  According to one source she died 9 Jan. 1795 but another has her buried on 24 Feb. that year -- I hardly think they would have kept her on ice for so long.

Can anyone help?

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Westmeath / Daly of Kilcleagh
« on: Friday 12 April 24 19:29 BST (UK)  »
Does any Rootschatter have a tree for this family that you'd be prepared to share with me?
I don't need generations more recent than Joseph, who I think was High Sheriff of Westmeath in 1767 and married Frances Fetherston or Feterstonhaugh.

On second thoughts, it would be nice to know what daughters they had -- as well as earlier generations, of course.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Could the Golden Age of DNA Testing Be Over?
« on: Thursday 11 April 24 18:27 BST (UK)  »
... the increasing numbers of new matches with no trees, a public tree consisting of 1, 2, or 3 private entries, or a completely private tree.

Let's face it, most of those who take the test want to find out their "ethnicity", although it's well known that that's just guesswork.  Probably explains why so few 'matches' reply when one approaches them.  One of those who did reply told me to mind my own business -- so quite obviously not interested in linking up with cousins.

On the whole I'm disappointed.

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It was a different NHS in 1953, too.  My father told the story of how the clock in the hall struck midnight, my brother was born, and the doctor looked at his watch and insisted it was still a minute to 12.  Or perhaps I've got the order wrong, but anyway there was an argument about which date to register the birth with.

I doubt you'd get a GP to attend a home birth in the middle of the night now.
And 18 months later he came to the house to give us all our jabs, as we were about to travel to Egypt to join Dad who was in the army and stationed there.  I remember running to hide at the other end of the garden (coward!).

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Europe / Re: Seigmund Gütman(n) AUSTRIA
« on: Monday 25 March 24 18:21 GMT (UK)  »
No such name as "Seigmund".  It's Siegmund or Sigmund.
And Gutmann (with variant Guttmann) is much more probable than Gütmann.

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Europe / Re: German translation help
« on: Friday 22 March 24 07:09 GMT (UK)  »
I think this should have been posted under Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition.

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Galway / Morgan of Kilcolgan and Monksfield
« on: Friday 15 March 24 10:46 GMT (UK)  »
John Morgan of Kilcolgan married Sarah Ormsby in April 1758.
He must have been descended from an earlier John who acquired Kilcolgan Castle in 1662.
Can anyone fill in the intermediate generations for me?

The family later moved to Monksfield but seems to have died out before the first edition of Burke's Landed Gentry of Ireland was compiled.

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