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Somerset Lookup Requests / Re: Burial lookup Boyce / Boice
« on: Wednesday 12 June 19 14:09 BST (UK)  »
It’s a bit of an awkward one as Jane Boyce is in her sons home at Pentrebach Road Pontypridd shown as a Widow in April 1891.
Yet William is shown as being in a workhouse in Somerset rather than with his family who are doing well in Somerset or Pontypridd.

There are 2 William Boyce’s in and around Ditcheat / Evercreech the same time.
My William Boyce actually changed his name from HORE to BOYCE prior to 1851 census ( I have that info )

It could also be this William Boyce who died in 1886 :
• Bath Reg Oct-Nov-Dec 1886 5c424 age 67

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Somerset Lookup Requests / Re: Burial lookup Boyce / Boice
« on: Sunday 09 June 19 10:25 BST (UK)  »
I believe that Jane Boyce May be buried at St Ilan church Eglwysilan which is situated on top of the mountain overlooking both Pontypridd and Caerphilly areas.
I have checked at Glyntaf Crem / Church and she is not registered as being buried or cremated there.

Parish of Eglwysilan 1906
Page 77
Item 613  Jane Boyce aged 85 of Treforest .
Burial undertaken 19th May 1906 
Service taken by D Lloyd Rees

But it doesn’t state which church or graveyard she was laid to rest.


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Cornwall / Re: HORE Family Photo's (Roche, St Austell, Cornwall)
« on: Sunday 09 June 19 10:16 BST (UK)  »
I have HORE family in 1790 back in Somerset but the family changed their names over within 3 generations to BOYCE by the 1851 census , although they were using both HORE & BOYCE in Birth , Marriages , Deaths and Census info gathered especially in 1840’s which was very confusing trying to trace my BOYCE family back as they used both within 9 months of census and death of Frederic Boyce / Hore .
There must’ve been some issues around the marriage of BOYCE and Elizabeth HORE between 1780 and 1816 when they started to use the name BOYCE and HORE .

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Somerset Completed Lookup Requests / Re: boyce 1841 ditcheat area of somerset
« on: Sunday 09 June 19 09:51 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the info a while ago, This is where my confusion was with my Boyce tree. 
It seems between 1790 and 1850 they were using both HORE and BOYCE names on Birth , Marriages , Deaths and Census forms .
Although they were shown as Boyce on 1841 census young Frederic Boyce died very young and is shown as Frederic HORE a few years later , son of William & Jane HORE ( Not Boyce ) although the same people.

The Grandfather shown as Edward BOYCE living next door was previously known as Edward HORE and he changed his name over to BOYCE between 1815 & 1841 census .
I don’t know if this was legally sorted through a court or due to parentage rights .  They seemed to change over their name quite easily .

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I have been advised that Jane Boyce is buried in Pontypridd but there are 3 possible graveyards near by her home but I have contacted Glyntaf Crem and she is not shown there although there are several Boyce’s buried there.

The most possible on is St Ilan Church up on the top of Eglwysilan mountain between Pontypridd and Caerphilly ( which overlooks their home at Rockingstone Terrace ) .  Their records are believed to be held at the Glamorgan Records Office in Cardiff these days. There are also 2 very young children buried there at St Ilan so she maybe with them or nearby them.
 I believe that Jane Boyce May be buried at St Ilan church Eglwysilan which is situated on top of the mountain overlooking both Pontypridd and Caerphilly areas.
I have checked at Glyntaf Crem / Church and she is not registered as being buried or cremated there.

Parish of Eglwysilan 1906
Page 77
Item 613  Jane Boyce aged 85 of Treforest .
Burial undertaken 19th May 1906 
Service taken by D Lloyd Rees

But it doesn’t state which church or graveyard she was laid to rest.

The other church is St Mary’s but I have made several attempts to contact those I charge without any success.

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Somerset Lookup Requests / Re: Burial lookup Boyce / Boice / HORE /HAORE
« on: Monday 08 January 18 11:54 GMT (UK)  »
There has been a bit of controversy regarding my Boyce line going back to 1790s' where it seems that  some were shown as Hore / Hoare and they later changed their name to Boice and Boyce on some census forms and Birth Registry . I believe that this was done due to an illegitimate child later taking on his fathers surname rather than the mothers of Hore as registered.
Later on between 1815 up to 1843 their children some of whom were shown originally as Hore also changed their name to Boice / Boyce. There is a Birth and Death of a young child named Frederic Hore within a few years yetthe parents are then shown as BOYCE in the Census forms a year earlier in 1841.
This has been very confusing as some researchers have simply added and amalgamated all the same people as Boyce / Boice with the birth and marriage info but have not explained why you are unable to find them whilst researching the family info, this is because they were registered as Hore / Hoare in official records until around 1815 when their names gradually changed. I wonder if this was done for legal reasons of parentage for a will or due to a member of the family getting into trouble somehow .

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Thanks everybody for all your previous help.
I am still looking for the final resting place of Jane Boyce nee Walker ( came from West Pennard / Ditcheat Somerset around 1890 ) who died in Pontypridd 1906 .
I have obtained a copy of her Death Certificate but i cannot find her burial / cremation anywhere .

I have just been on to the St Ilan Church Eglwysilan a few moments ago and its now showing the following under the Family History tab :

The completed Registers for Baptisms, Marriages and Burials are all deposited with the Glamorgan Records Office in Cardiff, where they may be consulted freely.

The current registers that are still in use are naturally kept in the benefice. Unfortunately the Burial Ground Plan - which would locate the position of graves - has been lost some time ago, this means that unless the grave has a surviving headstone then the precise location would not be identifiable. However, there is a record of the headstones and a plan compiled by the Glamorgan Family History Society in 1994 which is available in Saint Ilan's Church, Eglwysilan; if a headstone was in existence at that time.

If you would like to consult the records please contact the Glamorgan Records Office to arrange this. They also provide a search service if you are unable to visit them.


Appreciate all the help and info provided over the 14 years i've been researching my Boyce and other family trees.

Regards,
Dave Boyce

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I am just collating all the info together to try and make some sort of sense and a timeline story together.
 
Could it be that John Boyce and Betty / Elizabeth Hoare had an Illegitimate child in Margaret Hore Boyce  12 May 1784 and Baptised on 31 May 1784 t naming the father as John so they then got married shortly after on 20 June 1784 .
 
They then parted or divorced whilst she was pregnant with Edward.
 
When born 7 July 1792  Edward  simply took the name HOARE as his mothers Maiden name because they were parted and perhaps John living elsewhere.
 
John Boyce and Elizabeth Hoare then remarried yet again in Wedmore in 1813 .
 
Because John Boyce and Elizabeth known also as Betty were remarried again , Edward Hoare started to make changes to his name and their children's names over to to Boyce.
Although he seemed a bit confused by this by 1845 they all seem to be called Boyce.

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Thanks to another researcher Mike Edwards who gave me loads of help with this, there has been a bit of mystery to my family.

There were name changes between Hore / Hoare and Boyce between 1790 and 1845.

Frederic was Registered and Baptised as Hore but shown as well as his parents as BOYCE on the 1841 census. He was later buried in 1842 as Frederic Hore age 2.

This is why certain records were hard to find.

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