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 I  have been trying  to   find  the possible burial of   DOROTHY  HARRIS   - NEE BASSANO
the  second wife  of THOMAS  HARRIS -- as there is a bit of evidence he went  to    Virginia    and that there was a third wife  there. .


BUT UNPROVEN -- i want to   first  prove   if this second wife   Dorothy HARRIS- NEE BASSANO  -actually  did die  in England or not . 

To give a little back ground as there was soooooooooooooo many HARRIS same name   birth  years of cousins etc -----and many joined this kin ship   type system and went to USA

Thomas HARRIS  --- Father    was  Sir William HARRIS
 Mother--- Lady Alice Smythe --- were very much involved in the third  charter of the Virginia  Company----  but   from England they never went  ..

Their Son  Sgt  John went abt 1626   ish  with wife Dorhty Lymbrey Calcott

But this THOMAS   HARRIS b-1636  i speak of here ---  was in fact   a grand son of their   other son Arthur  and is   VERY    VERY  frequently mixed up  with his cousin same name and birth year in Virgina  who descended from Sgt John HARRIS  i  mentioned . 

THEY are   frequently  mixed up  with each other .

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So my guy  is

Thomas HARRIS  born 8 Sept 1636 Chevening Kent
Father-    JOHN HARRIS ( NOT SGT JOHN )
Mother Frances DUCRE  -- this was her  * second marriage  she had Thomas b 1636  in .

His  FIRST MARRIAGE  marriage
HANNAH COULTMAN 13-1-1658 New FIsh St PArish St Margarite-- or --St Stephen Walbrook London
Possibly a daughter named HANNAH born ----she  ws under the care of her brother john as parents were dead .

HIS  **SECOND *****MARRIAGE
DOROTHY BASSANO  28 -2  1862 LONDON - BASSANO well known Italian  Musician family  in the Kings court .
POSSIBLY   - 4 -    CHILDREN BORN TO THEM.
DOROTHY 1663 ST MARY LE STRAND
JOHN 23--4 -- 1664 ST LEONARD  EASTCHEAP LONDON
 ANN  12-3-1667 ST ANDREW HOLBORN MIDDLESEX
THOMAS  9 - 5- 1669   ST MARY  -   WALTHAMSTOW ESSEX ---

DOROTHY WAS MENTIONED IN HER BROTHER  JOHN  BASSANO WILL IN 1671 ---

 THERE IS A   FAIT BIT OF SPECULATION--    BUT  I SEE NO PROOF --  THAT THIS THOMAS HAS REMARRIED IN USA --

  SO THATS WHY I AM  TRYING TO SEE IF   THERE IS ANY   PROOF DOROTHY BASSANO HARRIS    DID   DIED IN ENGLAND ..



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Your clip is from
New South Wales, Australia, Gaol Description and Entrance Books, 1818-1930, Entrance Book, Sydney
1819-1833


I think the column for "Remarks" may actually read:
50 lashes xxxxx
and
xxx of sentence N C

Then the date Nov 7
in column To Whom Discharged - Sally

I think the N C may denote Newcastle as others on the page were being sent there.

Judith


Thanks Judith -  and he has spent  a lot of time in Newcastle  .
I have searched high and low to find his death  but have run out of ideas  other than now checking hospitals as i saw ---possibly ---in the NSW State records index      a few John  Lees ot check .

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The very last time i have JOHN LEE  was here  on Oct  22-1832   in Sydney  Goal  when he was being sent to  District 7 
but have no   idea where that  is  in NSW

He has just had another 50 lashes .
He has had a few 50 's  in Newcastle
And one  of 100 lashes

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"HMC"  = (His Majesty's Cutter). 

Just a piece of unrelated information:
HMC Sally was used by surveyor John Bingle in 1821 - see below for his comment
In the month of December, 1821, I first visited Newcastle in command of H. M. C. Sloop Sally, on a voyage to examine and finish the coast survey between Sydney and Torres Straits, especially Moreton Bay; and my report of its capabilities being considered favourable, Mr. Oxley, the Surveyor General, was sent to select and establish the settlement.


Thank you for that --very interesting !!!

It seems probable that the Sally was also used to transport prisoners on the coastal run. 

Judith

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Sorry i cant help with a link.

He was JOHN     LEE
Born about 1804  London
Convicted at the Old Bailey 
Arrived 1819 on the Grenada
Was a constant  re offender  and  was sent  to Newcastle
Eventually was in Frazers lane in Sydney  for a short while
Newspaper   has him stealing   a boat  off  Billy Blue
Emus off someone else in Syd
Was in and out of Sydney  jail until  i lose him   for good   about 1831-  being whipped  again .
He was  whipped   50  times  on  a number of   times   and  100 lashes and was part of the tobacco  stealing  off the  Speedwell  .


I have never found his fate after 1831 -  but    have seen a few records for possibles in Asylums that need to be checked . 



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For what it's worth, it's Sentences annexed thereto.

Great job thank you .

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Thank you   every one .

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Sentences amassed?

Sue

Thank you   Sparrett .

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Sentences --?-- thereto, also their original places and time of trial and sentences, extracted
From the deed polls or indents of the respective ships or vessel by which they arrived in …

Thanks Neal .

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