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The Common Room / Re: Samuel Powell - transported to Australia
« on: Tuesday 26 November 13 22:43 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, we thought he was rather fashion-forward having blue hair!
Thanks for all the responses:
Giblet - Samuel and Ann settled in the Bathurst area, so if Melville is in that region it is likely to be them.
         - Eliza, daughter of Samuel and Ann was born in Oct 1829 or 30.
         - yes, its the common name problem.  However, if he enlisted in 1806 he would be a veteran soldier and I think therefore less likely to desert. My theory is that he was fairly new - the Buffs fought at the Battle of Albuhera in May 1811 in which they sustained heavy losses, so would have been reinforced with new recruits.  I hope the Buffs are able to answer this.

Jo - I contacted the Buffs yesterday so haven't had a reply yet.  Samuel and Ann's marriage certificate number is V182740773B/1827, with the date of their permission to marry 19/5/1827. They married at St Johns, Parramatta, which was probably the main venue for convict weddings, as the minister was Rev Samuel Marsden who was apparently very interested in the morality of female convicts. They did have other children but I haven't recorded their names. The Buffs were in Australia 1821-27, so it would be a bit ironic if Samuel had to start part 2 of his sentence by rejoining them!

Gail B - thanks for those suggestions; the Bastard was born the year I was looking for so is a strong possibility.  The Buffs recruited in the south west, so he is a more likely option than the Samuel I found in Liverpool.

Thanks again for your interest. (I have a few more convicts that I'm following up, if I get stuck I know where to come!)

Jennifer

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The Common Room / Re: Samuel Powell - transported to Australia
« on: Tuesday 26 November 13 02:15 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you very much for your prompt and useful help, I certainly have some new avenues to search.  The reference was particularly interesting, I must admit I got a bit caught up in reading stuff not actually relevant - I'm sure you can understand how that happens!  Samuel was sentenced to both fourteen years transportation and subsequent unlimited service with whatever military unit was in the colony, so whether part 2 occurred is something I will be looking for.  I would have thought that fourteen years as a convict in a new colony would have about exhausted him, though.
Jennifer

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The Common Room / Samuel Powell - transported to Australia
« on: Monday 25 November 13 10:14 GMT (UK)  »
Samuel Powell was court martialled in Portalegre, Portugal probably in 1812 (during the Peninsular War).  He was returned to England and transported in 1813.  I can't find any record of whereabouts in the UK he originated, maybe because he wasn't in the UK at the time of his conviction.  It seems to be a fairly common name, so I'm a bit stumped.  He married in 1827 with his age given as 38, so I am surmising that he was born in 1789.  I did find a Samuel Powell born that year in Liverpool, but I don't as yet know if it's the same one.  Is there anybody with a great great great uncle who disgraced the family by being court martialled and transported?

Just as an aside - the woman he married, Ann Taylor, was also a convict - living at the Parramatta Female Factory.  The way those women were handed over to become wives to the male convicts was quite disgraceful.

Regards,
Jenay

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Hertfordshire / Re: William AYLETT - Convict
« on: Thursday 29 September 11 02:17 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, Sylvia.  Did you also find that the poor boy was transported for stealing two beehives?  Harsh justice.

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Hertfordshire / Re: William AYLETT - Convict
« on: Wednesday 28 September 11 02:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ray,
Yes, sorry - you are correct.  More haste less speed as my mother always said.
I would think any spelling variants would be possible, just that Hytt was the other  one I saw.
I don't know anything about Mary Ann's life pre-transportation.

The Herefordshire website is really good, I don't think any of our local councils have anything like that.

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Hertfordshire / Re: William AYLETT - Convict
« on: Tuesday 27 September 11 00:34 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ray,
Only because I did find an earlier date for her birth.  However, If she was aged 20 at her trial in England, the later date for her birth must be the correct one.

Here's something interesting - I was having a bit of a look at Samuel's background, and I found something indicating that his father had also been transported.  I havent followed it up yet.  James Hytt  (different spelling to Samuel's) christened Colmworth Beds 24/4/1776, married Ann Stringer 27/3/1795, committed to Bedford Gaol charged with sheep stealing, found guilty 24/7/1805, sentenced to death, reprieved to life.
Sent to the hulks at Woolwich.


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Hertfordshire / Re: William AYLETT - Convict
« on: Monday 26 September 11 00:33 BST (UK)  »
Thank you benzon and Ray - William didn't return to England, he married the daughter of convicts and settled down to produce 11 children.  I wouldn't think many convicts could have afforded the fare for passage from Australia back to the to UK.

Re the other convicts - I'll start you off gently, with the ones I have information on.  William's parents-in-law were:
Samuel Hite b approx 1801, Colmworth Beds.  Convicted for term of life Bedford Assizes (possibly burglary, don't know year or circumstances). Arrived Van Diemans Land 21/10/1821, on Malabar from Gravesend.

Mary Ann Pendrill b either 1815 or 1823, don't know where. Convicted Central Criminal Court to term of 7 years, don't know what crime.  Arrived VDL 25/4/1836 on Arab II (a female convict ship).

Samuel and Mary Ann married 10/7/1837. On the consent to marry document Samuel is named as a free man.

Anything to pad out these bare facts would be appreciated.

Benzon, what is HALS?

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Hertfordshire / Re: Aylett convict
« on: Wednesday 21 September 11 10:48 BST (UK)  »
Wow, thanks Trish and majm - were you just hanging around your computers waiting to pounce on obscure questions?  I have some stuff from Tasmanian convict records, but this is much more detail than I had.  Interesting that although William was only transported for 7 years, Mother England didnt bring him home again at the end of his sentence.  I wonder how many transportees made it back?

I have another couple of convicts to track if you're looking for things to look up!

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Hertfordshire / William AYLETT - Convict
« on: Wednesday 21 September 11 04:09 BST (UK)  »
The first of my surname to arrive in Australia was a transported convict, William John Aylett, born 1826 Thundridge(?) Herts. He arrived in Van Diemans Land (now Tasmania) on the Mt Stewart Elphinston in 1845.  Is anything known about the family in England?  I don't know where he was tried and convicted, can anybody advise me on where would be the best place to start looking?

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